How to accept payments anonymously?

I think you misunderstood it a little bit.
$2,500 is limit, if your account is not verified and if you do not ask to life this limit. It has nothing to do with tax office.
For example, I have premier verified account with all limits lifted. So there's no limit for me...

But you are correct in one thing - in order to have this limit lifted, you need to have a business... and there comes greek regulations...

Accept bitcoin. You wont be able to trade bitcoin and paypal funds without losing money. $110 bitcoin, will sell paypal for like $130.

Bitcoin, Liberty reserve and few other cryptocurrency can help in this case. I choose to use LR to keep payment anonymous.

The more steps are between you and your money, the less you will have in the end.

My tip?

1. Found a offshore company
2. Start a offshore bank account
3. create additional bank accounts in other countries with "better standing"
4. get your client to pay you on the "legal" account.
5. funnel your cash to the offshore account.
6. use your debit card / credit card that comes with the offshore acc.
7. happiness

This way you only pay a smallish fee at the start and then have no fees etc.

Moving offshore is very expensive. Unless a person has more than 100k in yearly profits it's not worth it. You do need to setup 3 to 5 offshore entities in different countries with bank accounts to remain securely anonymous. Most banks will charge very high fees to operate and maintain offshore accounts these days.

infested27 said:

After doing some more research i am now 100% sure i could do this if i find a way to connect an anonymous paypal account to bitcoins.

It works like this:

1. Accept payments in anonymous/fake paypal account
2. Use anonymous/fake paypal account to buy bitcoins
3. Use bitcoins to exchange with cash or products

I just need a middle man to accept the payments and send me the bitcoins...

Is there any way to create an offshore with less than 200$ somewhere with no accounting work or taxes where i can just accept paypal payments legaly and then use that account online to buy bitcoins? Is there any other service that can do the middleman work anonymously for me?

Has anyone done something similar?

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Good luck finding someone willing to exchange bitcoins for paypal !

Does anyone know a "middle man" company similar to payoneer that accepts paypal/credit cards (for clients to pay) and can pay me in bitcoins?

It should work like this:

Client pays with paypal/credit card -> middleman accepts payment -> middleman sends bitcoins to me

I doubt that paypal sends anything to Greek IRS and the tax is 10k per year???
WOW , i didnt know it was 10k as i am from Greece too and i have been using paypal for years now , both stealth and real account.I do exceed the 2.5k limit per year and i never get bothered by the IRS here as i think actually that limit of 2.5k indicates that you have to verify your account with docs (id and utility bill etc).Once you do that there is no limit anymore and also as far as i know there is 20k limit for usa accounts per year that when they exceed it paypal sends info to IRS but i repeat i receive way over 2.5k per year to my real account and i dont pay anything for taxes.

The best way will be to receive all the money personally and hide them under your bed ... Just joking.. Well try making a fake payoneer account the legit way

Paypal is probably not a soloution for you.

Bitcoin strikes me as more of a trafing vehicle with wide swings than a currency substitute.

You can open up with Bitcoins only, see how it goes. Its a trendy currency now, and you might get buyers from the bitcoin community only for the sole fact that you use them. E.q. they have cash and not too many places to spend it.

Otherwise, consult Payoneer if you can get a virtual bank account. Then some payment gateway.

I have multiple bank accounts with debit cards. I can help anyone to make their dirty money clean.

I had exact same problem.
The solutions I found is accept payments either at 2co and then withdrawn to oayoner and use just their MasterCard to withdrawn from any ATM in my country , or even get paid directly with payoneer (load card)

I own a offshore company with bank accounts in Cyprus. IBAN, e-banking, debit card, everything available.
Could receive payments for you and send you cash or Westernunion for a little fee.
PM me for details.

pfeiffensack said:

I own a offshore company with bank accounts in Cyprus. IBAN, e-banking, debit card, everything available.
Could receive payments for you and send you cash or Westernunion for a little fee.
PM me for details.

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Ha Ha your second post, and your first post was offering the same service.
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...offshore-bank-account-europe.html#post5906001

I think people would be unwise to take you up on the offer at this moment.
Why don't you try building you reputation on the forum first?
Then people may be willing to do business with you.

W130SN said:

Ha Ha your second post, and your first post was offering the same service.

I think people would be unwise to take you up on the offer at this moment.
Why don't you try building you reputation on the forum first?
Then people may be willing to do business with you.

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Well ok i understand if people don't trust me at the moment, I would also not if I were you.
But I think it should be self-evident that one should not accept an offer like that without verifying it and/or the provider of it.
I mean also someone with 1k posts can be beguiler and hijack someone...

Of course I'm new here and i will yield myself in the future here, but it was just an offer and nobody has to accept it.
So no harm meant

pfeiffensack said:

Well ok i understand if people don't trust me at the moment, I would also not if I were you.
But I think it should be self-evident that one should not accept an offer like that without verifying it and/or the provider of it.
I mean also someone with 1k posts can be beguiler and hijack someone...

Of course I'm new here and i will yield myself in the future here, but it was just an offer and nobody has to accept it.
So no harm meant

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You are correct, post count is not an indicator that somebody may or may not be a scammer.
Everybody should always do their due diligence when working with new people.
Good Luck.

Alpha. said:

1. Found a offshore company
2. Start a offshore bank account

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How can i do this?

white92 said:

How can i do this?

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I'm going to tell you something now which is 100% true, I also had to learn it the hard way.
- You can found an offshore company for 500 - 10'000$, depends on country and agency. A really anonymous and from the public authorities
accepted one WILL cost you at least $2000-3000. Google for "offshore founding agency", but beware there are a lot of hijackers out there!
- If they are good (1 of 20 agencies can do that, altough they all claim to be able to do so) they can open a bank account for you. And if they are really good they can even provide IBAN, e-banking, etc.
- But this account will be registered on your companies name AND your name (!!) and they will need your passport. It is not possible, in no country in this world, to register a bank account only on a just founded offshore company.
- So that means you will have to mandate an escrow agency to register the bank account on their name instead of your name. This will cost you a lot and believe me - there are not a lot of escrowers who will do that.

So summarized that means you can do that, but only if you have a lot of money, time and nerves.
The service offered by the most offshore agencies is not really anonymous, the govs WILL know how's behind that bank account.

Edit: Forgott to say that an account at an offshore bank in Seychelles is worth nothing, payment providers etc. wont accept it.
You will need an EU/US/whatever based bank.