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How the hell do you monetize movie torrents?!!#$^%^$

Discussion in 'Torrents' started by bigman, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. bigman

    bigman Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I can get 100s of leeches per torrent. I am good at finding the right proxies, right times, identifying the right torrents etc and uploading to the right torrent sites to get loads of traffic. I used to monetize it with CPA but what those TPB mods etc. do is they report to the CPA company resulting in bans and payments getting withheld. So no amount of Double meta refresh will work.

    Wat other way is there to monetize movie torrents? Its frustrating that I can get so much traffic but have no idea wat to with it!!

    If someone knows of an idea, I'm ready to even JV with you. Let me know!
     
  2. Xyon81

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    if you want to buy my torrent domain its for sale :p
    televisionstorrents.com cos i can't work out how to make any (legal) money from it either
     
  3. bigman

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    lol...thanks but no thanks!
     
  4. deadster

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    pm me IMs and let's chat
     
  5. cookz4u

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    I believe it's difficult to monetize torrents due to the fact that your trying to market to fairly web savvy people that only want the download without any accompanying fluff. Off the top of my head, I guess you could include a file link to one of your websites in an attempt to provide junk traffic.
     
  6. specopkirbs

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    if you know of a way to bind .exe files to movie files then i have a great way of monetizing if you have cpa accounts...i have cpaxtreme if you can get thousands of downloads then you can achieve $$$ each day. ive heard its possible to bind exe to movie files but i need to figure it out
     
  7. Bombastic

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    Are you talking about installing some adware along with the movie file?
     
  8. E-yun

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    I'd say move from movies to applications and use a binder to bind PPI affiliate products to the setup.exe.
     
  9. specopkirbs

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    nah cpaextreme silently fills out cpa offers on the downloaders computer simlar to secret submit method...it even does the second page of offers. it works best with software as its easy to bind to it...have you got trusted accounts on thepiratebay or mininova? if you dont mind uploading software then the earning potential is massive. though im yet to figure out how to do it with movie files. an example of my earnings with software uploads:
    1700 downloads made around $112 on 4 cpa offers.
     
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  10. doctorwar

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    Apply DRM to your movies, and make the payload something that can make you money ;) See ppi.org for more on this
     
  11. kerozin24

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    I have a Special APP which can Lock Movie, mp3, or any other type of files, if anyone interested, PM me!
     
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    but output will be exe ?
     
  13. gragster

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    good question if you run your app on a movie such as avi file to lock it will it become an exe? Same with dmr?
     
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    Monetize by branding the movies with a ticker showing your websites address. Once they get to the website have them sign up for your email list that requests their phone number, then create a CL pva account for each phone number making sure to state that in order to get access to the site that they need to send you the pin number that was sent to them. Once you get the pin number for each then set up the pva account and sell it for $5-$7 each.
     
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  15. FatherCarbon

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    I tried to apply DRM to movies but I had a hell of a time. Apparently I needed a DRM Provider Account... bullshit. I know these fucks that I've downloaded fake movies with DRM pointing to a domain with PPI didn't have any legit DRM licenses. I've tried Windows Media Encoder, etc..

    Can someone provide more info on this?
     
  16. deadster

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    ^yeah I would like to know about that too :)

    also, does anyone have a copy of DRM Bloater?
     
  17. bigman

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    Now thats real clever...who would hav thought of that!

    It will take some doing...but once everything's setup it can prove a real money maker..
     
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  18. berzerk

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    Greetings,

    I have very same problem. Shortly I'm newbie and sub-begginer what comes to this sector related things, but quite seasoned bussinesman with good track record otherwise.

    I got bit tired and retired abt. year ago, found new hobby in this net/especially p2p world, and got hooked. And now various business concepts keeps haunting me. Like maybe would do another, last round with net business?

    The one I retired from could not be further from this, quite basic trading and distribution of physical materials.

    I am known in my country/sectors of activities as good marketer and especially "concept man". Figuring out workable ideas and systems, usually some niches, with really quite good track record. But I'm so new and confused in this industry, that most of my questions might sound like coming from horses, say mouth. But trust me, I am overall quite credible figure what comes to business. Its not the first new industry I learned from zero.

    And this is one example of out of the box thinking, total outsider starts wondering and asking stupid questions.

    Anyway:

    TORRENTS AS DECENT SALES VEHICLE?
    EXAMPLE SELLING PROXY/VPN SERVICES
    I HAVE A NATIONAL ISSUE/BENEFIT HERE

    99 % of what I hear abt. monetizing these are not interesting, any kind of force/fool people to do something.

    I have been thinking abt. clear and fairAd system, within then torrent as say text file. I think there is larger potential in these, but in my case there is quite virgin market for whole torrent issue and these services too. They would sell probably just due to BBC/Hulu factors.

    THE TECHNICALS, WHICH I DONĀ“T GET?

    Like what is there is text file "check this", with links to "uberproxy ltd:s" web site and special offer. Clicking that, customer would end up there and actions would be recorded for my benefit. Ideally something paid for just click and some for orders etc.

    Why torrent stuff is really normally without ANY Ads? Everything else and in most sites you go nuts with masses of ads, popups etc. I have focused so far only and mainly in movies and music, thus some software related like PPA never ran into.

    But just decent, normal ads, that links to some exact offer? Being totally free and up to customers choice to click it or not? Is it possible to add such links to such files, which can be recognized being result of our activities, no matter what? And thus get paid for it?

    I mean mainly a simple text file.

    WHY COULD IT WORK? REALLY SELLING VIA TORRENTS?

    Again I have bit of national benefit here, but still.

    - For the buyer

    The ads/links should offer really some genuine benefit.

    Say simply cheaper offer than otherwise available. Assume also that it comes from certain community, which have certain trust and respect among the torrenters. Thus they believe its really also a well chosen service and offer, which it of course also should be. Like "Bulvanian torrent community" in Bulvanian language to their own citizens. Some cheaper offer than from anywhere else, recommended by credible system, even guaranteed in a way it really works.

    WHY would they choose another service?

    - For the seller, proxy/vpn provider

    Or for all, we would represent certain wholesale buying power, thus make sense for them to make a unique offer, for ex regionally and for us anyway. There are likely some margins to be used for such.

    And the benefit? THEY would be chosen very widely in that certain market area, among the zillion equal other providers. And what they have to loose? At least here this would mean 100 % sure lot of new sales, from totally virgin market, not adding competition or being a way from their main market.

    IS THIS REALLY SO RADICAL?

    I'm so confused why nobody tried this before that have hesitated to approach any for ex proxy affiliates. Of course this logic would work for hundred other items, especially in my kind of market but widely too. Also there are lot of details to deal with, but this I find the basic question.

    That why among EVERYTHING else, itself torrent downloaded materials has remain this totally ad-free area? Is there some technical/other ways wrong with this reasoning?

    CYBER-PANDORA, "TORRENT-STU" AND CYBERLOCKERS


    Some extra ideas, partiallt thought having to do also with getting more traffic.

    - Brand the torrent

    Actually I see this happening already, with say various "coding groups" adding certain endings to their torrents. But one could brand some other issues also, for ex that every torrent you load from these people would include some extra surprise.

    - One reason: I prefer low profile

    As newbie but otherwise too. I look for ways to earn exactly on TORRENTS, not from websites with Ad hell etc., more public and problematic.

    I have plans for websites also, with some domains booked already, but still. Sounds better to earn just and directly from uploading torrents. More anonymous too.

    - Like couple of Hotlinks/just links for direct download movies, thought being in line with the movie they downloaded via torrent.

    - Pandora/or otherwise extra benefit

    Actually main issue was the benefit itself, but one idea would be

    textfile name as "do not open!"

    With maybe 3 layers, final being like "for sake of your mother in laws happiness, stop right here. DO NOT open the next file!"

    Which means of course everyone would open it, ancient human psychology. In net world, I guess requires trust in source etc. details

    I have some background in Direct Marketing, where this kind of issues, various categories of "pull" are measured. This would equal to "open the envelope level" pull. Then there are like "read the offer %", whatever action % etc. All the way to order level pull, the actual Pull. Everything is done and tested to increase every phases pull to maximum. Because all that leads to bigger order level pull.

    All such tricks should offer naturally some real benefit, and for example here quick and sure download of some extra movies.

    - LINK TO FILE SHARE EARNINGS

    Which basically cost you nothing, but might generate downloads in your Hotfile account.

    One theoretical torrent monetizing model anyway? And who knows how wide it might escalate/cumulate? Like receiver sends links to his-her friends, they to theirs etc.

    Thought still frankly this Cyberlocker basic earning system sounds not so convincing, for my amateur ears anyway. These "pennies for 1000 downloads"? Just doesn't sound really a Mercedes. But even so, would add at least SOME potential earning to torrent.

    This sector would be its own issue, I DO see anyway potential around that topic too.

    WHAT DO YOU THINK?

    If anyone managed to read whole thing.... And is still waken. I have been told being genetically incapable of expressing any ideas shortly. Sorry for that, and the clumsy English.

    I found this forum very interesting and sympatethic, with its entrepenourish and help each other spirit.

    I hope at least somebody got something out of these, say "out of the Web" person speculations. These I can share. In most issues I'm very much in the "asking for help side".

    Best regards

    "Magnus Ebrius"

    :eek::):D:masked:
     
  19. The_Cat_In_The_Hat

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    I like the idea of hardcoding your web address to the film, but there is no garuntee that people will go to your site is there?

    It's not as if they have to now is it?

    I make movies myself and I am looking at ways of monetising them, but hardcoding them with my webaddress is not going to work to be honest.
     
  20. buchner

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    Congrats you guys bumped a 3 year old thread.