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How the hell did this guy rank??????

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by jacker818, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. jacker818

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    Will someone please, before i go insane, explain to me how the hell one of my major competitors is ranking 1st page on google for a ton of high competition search terms when his backlinks don't even include keyword anchors?!?

    total referring domains: 58

    social signals: weak

    I am using ahrefs & majestic to analyze his site.
     
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  2. shottem

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    probably because its a old business . according to their description: since 1994. they got famous and people search for them on google.......... and i think its a franchise btw.

    which keyword are you using to search for them? just "LIMO" ? they are well ranked where the have franchise like "los angeles limo" and so on. nice keyword btw.
     
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    Anything to do with los angeles and limos they are ranked highly for it. As far as being a franchise, that does not give you a boost in the serps. I think he has build a nice amount of authourity thats about it. Unless some pros disagree with me.
     
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    If he has had a pro build him a PBN then most if not all will have crawlers blocked and wont show up.
     
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    Good point. Which is most likely what he did right since it would be nearly impossible to rank for a high comp keyword with only brand anchors???
     
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    Simple,he is using what you are not.
    Find the sites where he is linking his site and then you also start there.
     
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    You can communicate without reviewing the url. From what I know. I would be pissed if my competitors are sharing my websites all over forums and asking funny questions :)

    Anyways, why not find his backlinks and see what He is doing right.
     
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    He is ranking because he has an aged domain registered in 2010 + strong reviews / citations on sites like Google, Yelp etc apart from strong links from relevant sites (limo, bus, travel ). Post penguin you should not overuse anchor text - naked and branded links to your top domain are more important as they look natural.
     
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    Well said i agree with you, since you are using majestics and ahref to check your competition backlinks why not analyze them and try to see if you can get yourself any of those links.
     
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    I have not tested this but in theory it is possible as no penalty will be activated for over optimised anchor text for the target keywords where as the links pointing to it still pass power and Google can work out what the site is about from its own onpage text along with the on page text of the sites linking to it.

    I am guessing that the keywords you are aiming for are things like "limousine service los angeles", "limo service los angeles" and "los angeles limo service" like their site has good rankings on?

    Personally I don't think these are high comp keywords. I had a quick look and the Yelp page doesn't have any visible strong links so I would guess it is only there from its domain authority and on page. Sorry if one of these are your sites but lalimo.com, fivediamondslimo.com, la-limo.com, klsla.com and losangeleslimosservicesca.anytimelimousines.com don't seem to have much when it comes to off page SEO.

    The only strong sites I could see at first glance are crownlimola.com, americanlimos.org, crownlimos.com and lalimorental.com. Out of those sites both of the crown sites are probably what I would class as the strongest of the top 10 in my opinion anyway.

    Additionally americanlimos.org and lalimorental look like they may have used black hat techniques or spam to get up there already so they may have hidden links that I can't see.

    In addition to that they are pulling Google traffic from branding keywords such as crown limos, crown limousine and crown limousine la. I would imagine this would give them a boost also in Google as Google can see people are searching for them and clicking on their website with branding searches. Without knowing your site I can't tell if this is the same or not.
     
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    so after a bit of digging if found that he has created a shit ton of sub domain word press websites and he points the seo optimized anchors back to the original website. And these sites were not coming up in ahrefs becuase he is probably blocking the crawlers.
     
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    One more thread outing a competitor. I hate these.
     
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    So.. why not just do it yourself?
     
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    Because he only found out the guy was doing it less than an hour ago :p.
     
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    Smart guy blocking ref. So he has all those domains coming from the same domain name?
     
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    And realizing the amount of time he wasted not doing proper competition research, he decides to out the other site on a black hat forum so Google will look at this site with a microscope.
     
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    He is probably using CEO Sam's SEO assistant Jennifer's SEO service.
     
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    I'm sure Google have better things to do with their time than check every thread, and every reply of every SEO forum out there on the off chance that someone may post a URL that up on closer inspection may have used black hat methods to get rankings......
     
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    Because the site is old and has likely been contextually authoritative in whatever category that keyword is in. This means that Google KNOWS what he does. They also KNOW where he is located. So if you search for that service INSIDE his area Google will display his website. Its not black magic, just authority and age... and probably good traffic.

     
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    Are these services provided on BHW?

    I took down the link buddy you can calm down now. I did plenty of research on all these guys just didn't think that his seo agency (the same assholes i paid to create my website would be doing black hat seo which is hard to trace.)