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How much would a keyword list like this cost?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by geo89gr, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. geo89gr

    geo89gr Junior Member

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    Lets say that I had a list of ALL the keywords that have over 5k hits/month on google along with their respective cpc on adwords and their ranking difficulty rating from moz.

    How much would such a list cost?
     
  2. lukegutakhi

    lukegutakhi Newbie

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    $5 on fiverr or similar other sites.
     
  3. Aty

    Aty Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I don't think anyone has a list containing ALL the keywords that have over 5k hits/month on Google.
     
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    Kralj187 Senior Member

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    Matt is that you? Trying to earn a few bucks?
     
  5. geo89gr

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    I have the means of acquiring it. Thats why i am asking if it is worth anything.
    And yes, when I say all the keywords, i mean all of them. Millions of keywords, maybe more.
     
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    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    So you don't actually have it or know how many KW's it contains?
     
  7. geo89gr

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    I have started creating it, just havent gathered all of them.

    Edit: also i dont have the cpc and moz rank data yet.
     
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    The use of "all" makes your question difficult to answer. Even the most brilliant mathematician need a figure in order to "find XY".
     
  9. geo89gr

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    Well I guess it can be used to find untapped profitable niches. Since the value of each niche is variable, it's really hard to give you a more specific answer.
     
  10. myopic1

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    I'm sceptical of your claim. Google Adwords is the only source of this information (as we're talking about Google search numbers) therefore you're using browser automation to search for keywords and filtering them programatically.

    My educated guess would be that you're using selenium (or something that closely resembles it) in order to interact with the AJAX that Google Adwords uses and then filtering the search numbers column to store keywords with > 5000 searches.

    If you were to use a dictionary and download a spreadsheet from Adwords for every word in that dictionary and putting the bandwidth, time, proxies (likely), account creations aside...you would have X number of search terms. Those X number of search terms are a tiny fraction of the search terms out there as the search terms that you're able to download are capped (at 5,000 I believe?). When we start talking combinations of terms you're looking at X^Y where Y represents the total number of words that can be used with X, the possibilities are almost infinite.

    To further complicate this, most search terms are not in the dictionary, they're names of people, places, pop-culture topics.

    I've no doubt you can get a lot of search terms with > 5000 but all of them I would say is near impossible unless you had direct access to Google's database and they gave you the resources to query it.
     
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    klingt Newbie

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    Who knows, I'm sure someone will take it as a dump once you have everything in it, without much regard to the price
     
  12. SEO Power

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    The possible price is not what matters. What matters the most is whether anyone would be interested in such a list when they could just load Google's keyword planner and get the keywords they want. There's no point having a list of keywords that you can't use 1/1mil of.
     
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    How many KWs do you need in this list?
    I've a list of 100 KWs, which are getting 5-6k hits per Month. If you are interested then send me your requirement MSG with your Budget.
    Hope to get reply as soon as possible!
     
  14. geo89gr

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    The purpose of the list is to eliminate the keyword research step when someone wants to find a profitable niche to create a site and make money through seo. What the list will provide is the keywords that currently have the most volume, cpc and the least competition in the serps. Whych is practically every seo guy's dream.
     
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  15. geo89gr

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    AAh you are a smart guy.
    You are correct about scraping from adwords. However I am doing way more complicated stuff to get the initial list of keywords (As you mentioned the dictionary method is limited because it does not support slug, very long tail and new terms).
     
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    Interesting, a few ideas spring to mind if you're genuinely trying to achieve this that you may or may not have thought of.

    Filter for search terms with greater than something arbitrary like say 100,000 searches and then break them down into say >25,000 and then > 10,000 until you reach your bottom 5,000 number. Each of these individual stages could then be explored for branching search terms, essentially creating a tree like structure with the bottom tier being around 5000 searches a month.

    I'm curious though, are you using something like AWS to deal with the necessary bandwidth and time issues involved? Presumably you're faced with throttling and account banning too?
     
  17. macdonjo3

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    100 Keyords? BAHAHA. You are missing a few zeros.

    Stop trying to sell to the BHW members when you have nothing worth anything.