How much will you charge your buyer for paypal fee?

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When creating ecommerce, or platform, and decide to put paypal payment, how much you add from original invoice as "paypal handling fee" so that you receive exact amount after fees?

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/merchant-fees
They seem to have these many formula in various degree. Depending on country, currency, etc
Not as easy as "0.5% fee" for instance
 
Well i never charged a fee for that. I ate the fee, i didnt pass it onto the customer.
This.

It's not a coincidence that it's called a seller fee and not a buyer's fee.

It'd only make your prices look ugly. Imagine you want to sell something for $30 a pop, a nice even number and you add the fee, so the price would become $31.17 calculating with the 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction US formula.

If you can't afford to eat the fee, something is wrong with your pricing.
 
This.

It's not a coincidence that it's called a seller fee and not a buyer's fee.

It'd only make your prices look ugly. Imagine you want to sell something for $30 a pop, a nice even number and you add the fee, so the price would become $31.17 calculating with the 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction US formula.

Yup. Thats my position. Great minds and all haha :rolleyes:
 
Any legitimate business will have the fee built into the cost of their product or services. Because this is an honest operating cost.

However, if you're hell-bent on passing on the fee to your customer, it would depend on where your PayPal account is located.

PayPal charges 2 amounts on every transaction - one is a fixed fee (ranging from 30 cents to up to 59 cents) irrespective of the size of the transaction. The other is a dynamic fee that is a fixed percentage of every transaction (ranging from 2.9% to upto 4%)

So if you're located in the US, you'll end up paying 3.49% if you use Checkout (or 2.89% if you receive payment) + a fixed fee based on your buyer's country. Here is the fee structure.

If you're in a country like India - you'll end up paying 4%. Here is the fee structure.

The amount you charge your client is not based on your whim but follows a proper calculation. Or else, you're just overcharging.

The formula is

p + ᶠ ⁄₁₀₀ p + x = c

Where,

p = Your Price
f = Percentage of your Fee
x = Fixed Fee
c = Amount charged to Client

A simplified version of the above formula is -

p (1 + ᶠ ⁄₁₀₀) + x = C

So hypothetically, you're paying 2.9% + 30 cents in Fixed fee and want a $500 payment from your client. Your equation would look like this -

500 (1+2.9/100) + 0.30 = C

500 x 1.029 + 0.30 = C

514.5 + 0.30 = C

514.80 = C

So you'll end up charging your client $514.80 to be able to receive exactly $500 in your PayPal balance.

Yes, am fun at parties.
 
Yup. Thats my position. Great minds and all haha :rolleyes:
This.

It's not a coincidence that it's called a seller fee and not a buyer's fee.

It'd only make your prices look ugly. Imagine you want to sell something for $30 a pop, a nice even number and you add the fee, so the price would become $31.17 calculating with the 2.9% + $0.30 per transaction US formula.

If you can't afford to eat the fee, something is wrong with your pricing.

Right. I think i should narrow down the context to topping up account balance

When a user deposited $100 to his account via paypal, and if he receive full $100
Who'll pay the paypal fees?
 
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Right. I think i should narrow down the context to topping up account balance

When a user deposited $100 to his account via paypal, and if he receive full $100
Who'll pay the paypal fees?
My solution would be charging his paypal including fees (i.e $103.1), so he can receive full $100
However, the calculation formula is too broad, that we can't possibly consider every scenario without losing $ in the process (i.e when turns out the buyer is from another country, the fees jumped to $4.99)

Or got other ideas in mind?

Any legitimate business will have the fee built into the cost of their product or services. Because this is an honest operating cost.

However, if you're hell-bent on passing on the fee to your customer, it would depend on where your PayPal account is located.

PayPal charges 2 amounts on every transaction - one is a fixed fee (ranging from 30 cents to up to 59 cents) irrespective of the size of the transaction. The other is a dynamic fee that is a fixed percentage of every transaction (ranging from 2.9% to upto 4%)

So if you're located in the US, you'll end up paying 3.49% if you use Checkout (or 2.89% if you receive payment) + a fixed fee based on your buyer's country. Here is the fee structure.

If you're in a country like India - you'll end up paying 4%. Here is the fee structure.

The amount you charge your client is not based on your whim but follows a proper calculation. Or else, you're just overcharging.

The formula is

p + ᶠ ⁄₁₀₀ p + x = c

Where,

p = Your Price
f = Percentage of your Fee
x = Fixed Fee
c = Amount charged to Client

A simplified version of the above formula is -

p (1 + ᶠ ⁄₁₀₀) + x = C

So hypothetically, you're paying 2.9% + 30 cents in Fixed fee and want a $500 payment from your client. Your equation would look like this -

500 (1+2.9/100) + 0.30 = C

500 x 1.029 + 0.30 = C

514.5 + 0.30 = C

514.80 = C

So you'll end up charging your client $514.80 to be able to receive exactly $500 in your PayPal balance.

Yes, am fun at parties.
 
Right. I think i should narrow down the context to topping up account balance

When a user deposited $100 to his account via paypal, and if he receive full $100
Who'll pay the paypal fees?

You. You will pay them. Yes, less profit for you. Yes, it hurts very much.

Or they will pay them, through your prices.

But to add the fee on every payment and depending on where the buyer is from and all that, you're just wasting your time. Seriously, total waste of time figuring how much to add and for which countries and how to implement it automatically bla bla.

Don't you have anything better to do?

And if you're running an SMM panel and you're going to do automatic payments with Paypal, well, may God be with you :)

Edit: or no, here, may Charles Manson be with you :D

 
Well i never charged a fee for that. I ate the fee, i didnt pass it onto the customer.

You build the fee into your margin and suck it up.

If a buyer is buying something priced at $100 or $100000, they expect to pay that price.
 
You build the fee into your margin and suck it up.

If a buyer is buying something priced at $100 or $100000, they expect to pay that price.

Yeah exactly.

But paypal is bullshit. Hold on, let me give it to you for realz...

On January 2019 I received $612 on a website of mine which is totally not an SMM panel, and I lost $35.85 in fees. All paypal.

On January 2021 I received $3,072 on the same site which is totally not an SMM panel, and I lost $19.12 in fees. We have Wise, Payoneer, 2checkout and Crypto.

In fact, all the fees were from 2checkout (baby paypal), for about $275 of that total...

In other words, fuck paypal. Check out the other guys, keep more of your money, sleep better, yay :)
 
You. You will pay them. Yes, less profit for you. Yes, it hurts very much.

Or they will pay them, through your prices.

But to add the fee on every payment and depending on where the buyer is from and all that, you're just wasting your time. Seriously, total waste of time figuring how much to add and for which countries and how to implement it automatically bla bla.

Don't you have anything better to do?

And if you're running an SMM panel and you're going to do automatic payments with Paypal, well, may God be with you :)

Edit: or no, here, may Charles Manson be with you :D

I am bringing this topic here just in case anyone have better idea than implementing flat "handling fee" as can be found in various platform (i.e fiverr have $2.55, envato have $2, etc)
 
I am bringing this topic here just in case anyone have better idea than implementing flat "handling fee" as can be found in various platform (i.e fiverr have $2.55, envato have $2, etc)

I would be mildly annoyed by that fee.

You do what you want. But you could save yourself a whole lot of time and hassle if you just ate the fee.

You would not save time and hassle if you added other payment methods along with paypal, but you would save on the fee.

And if that -+3% loss cuts you so deep, just increase your prices by -+3% and move on.
 
I have always paid the fees on any buyer purchasing stuff on my website. The bonus is that you can write off the PayPal fees as bank fees for the business expenses to get money off your tax bill.
 
I would be mildly annoyed by that fee.

You do what you want. But you could save yourself a whole lot of time and hassle if you just ate the fee.

You would not save time and hassle if you added other payment methods along with paypal, but you would save on the fee.

And if that -+3% loss cuts you so deep, just increase your prices by -+3% and move on.

You don't do your grocery shop at the local supermarket, spend £100 on your food then be told it's £105, because we have to pay a £5 card processing fee.
 
You don't do your grocery shop at the local supermarket, spend £100 on your food then be told it's £105, because we have to pay a £5 card processing fee.

You should listen to this dude. What youre trying to do goes against human nature :D

Youre looking at fiverr but fiverr only gets away with it because theyre a monopoly. They were first in that market and they did a decent job, so they own the market. They get to do shit like that. You dont.

Of course, you can if you want to, but i dont see why you would.
 
Always keep your price 'all inclusive'. A lot of people drop their purchases when they see additional fee or shipping charges.
 
Always keep your price 'all inclusive'. A lot of people drop their purchases when they see additional fee or shipping charges.
I agree. People always hesitate when extra charges come up. Even if it's just a few cents. It's a psychological thing.
 
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