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How much does it cost to make a PBN?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by splishsplash1, Dec 28, 2016.

  1. splishsplash1

    splishsplash1 Power Member

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    For somebody who wants to make a PBN linking to one site but has never done so before, can you give an estimate on how much it costs to do this, please?

    Also I've read that Google penalises people with PBNs and shuts them down, a few months down the line. Is a PBN the right way to go to build authority for a website? If not what would you suggest are better options?
     
  2. neilbhabuta

    neilbhabuta Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Depends.... if u do it on the cheap and put in your own effort as little as $250 for a 10 suse PBN. If u do it via the threads here will cost you just shy of $600-$700 for a 10 site PBN.
     
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  3. VEHER

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    It's expensive, in time principally ;-)
     
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  5. MikeyMikey13

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    I can build 10 sites, lasting a year with content/hosting/domain registry for 200$. However that is really pushing it for quality.

    Also, i'm pretty experience in building them so the costs came down with experience.
     
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  6. splishsplash1

    splishsplash1 Power Member

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    Thanks everyone for your answers.

    What is 'suse'? I googled but got no answer :/

    $600 is a big risk for me if it all goes wrong. I don't mind spending time on it though. How would someone go about getting the right keyword to focus the website on?

    For the main money site, do people just have one page with an article on and link to that, or do they make it a real blog with many pages and articles on?

    Thanks mate, I'll check it out
     
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    I really don't think you want me to tell you how much it costs me to make 1 single PBN :))
     
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    If you get domains through godaddy auctions it can get expensive, if you scrape your own domains you pretty much can build a 10 PBN with year hostings for ~200-300$.

    Pretty much impossible to find decent domains unless you have your own custom scraping method that no one else uses.

    PS: I'm not including content costs and shit.
     
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    Content - 0 If you do it yourself
    Registration - $5 average if you shop around
    Hosting - $12
    PBN domain - $0 If you find it yourself

    $18 each is the cheapest. But can be like $40-$80 easily
     
  10. MikeyMikey13

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    By decent what do you mean?

    Have you checked out payday loans lately? In the UK a few sites on the first page results have 100's of PBN's with t5~ rd10~. You can find loads of these kind of domains every day on expireddomains.net.

    It is either mass quantity or great quality. They both work.
    Fasthosts is £1 at the minute.
    webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4 plenty of hosting deals under 10$
     
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    spectrejoe Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Feel free to waste 20-30$ on shitty PBN, I'd rather use these 20-30$ and buy web2.0 power them up with GSA blasts and I'd probably get a lot more than what that PBN was worth.

    If I'm going for a PBN I want only decent domains, this is especially important for people who don't have thousands or even several hundreds to spend in PBNs, every little juice helps, I'm one of those, if I got 50-100$ to invest per month it's a lot for me, if I'm making a PBN I might as well do it right.
     
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  12. MikeyMikey13

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    You are very confused. There isn't a "right" way to build a pbn. You do whatever gives you a ROI, simple buisness.

    Building ten PBN's for 200$ will give you much better results then web 2.0 from my experience, thus make you way more ROI.
     
  13. Nargil

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    @MikeyMikey13 is right here. It doesn't matter what kind of domain you use, they all work and it all comes down to ROI. I use and sell both scraped and expensive "elitist" domains from auctions. Crying about how amazing the auction domains are is bullshit. I know what I am doing, so I can get brutal domains for cheap, but most here aren't able to do that. If anyone here thinks that regular scraped domains do not work, then he has no idea or has never tried them.

    And if someone has just $50 - $100 to investe per month, then that guy should not even think about doing SEO at all. And choosing web 2.0 above even an average PBN domain is a terrible call, especially if you spend $30 per piece.

    Let's break down the costs. And I will be super cheap here:

    - Domain - You can either get it for free, or you can get it from me or someone else here. You can get pretty decent domain for $15.
    - Registration cost - $10
    - Yearly hosting - You can get super cheap ones for even $7 a year
    - Content - You can get it for free from Expired Article Hunter for example, but if you want to order it and we are being cheap here, so 5 articles, each 500 words, $2/500, that's... gee I shouldn't have drunk that whiskey... $10
    - Design - You can really do this yourself, if not, then you can easily outsource it for $10 here on BHW

    If you can find the domain for free, get expired and copyscape passed content for free, and design it yourself, then the costs come down to $17 per domain. Seventeen fuckin dollars.
    If you want to outsource everything except design, it comes down to $42. Stupid $42 bucks, with design it's $52. That's a lot? Expensive? Even if you have $100 to invest a month, you can still get 2 decent domains a month that will provide a serp improvement. No idea what we are even talking about here really.
     
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  14. stalin88

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    People do it for variety. You can get $11 hosting with the domain registration at 1and1 for one year. Next year you move it. If you do everything yourself its about $150-180 for 10. . Even if you get OK expired domains like TF11-15, you are still going to do better with 10 Expired Domains then spending $200 on social signals, web 2.0 and guest post. The only thing is its time consuming.
     
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    Great info, thanks.

    I know the answer depends on the competition, but how many PBN links have you found in your experience to be required to compete on a low/medium comp keyword?
     
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    Read this

    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/how-to-build-your-own-pbn-a-quick-guide-for-newbies.813358/
     
  17. Nargil

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    People should really stop asking this question. Not even the most experienced people here can tell you answer to this. It's a guess at the very best, especially lately. Google has been quite random after Penguin 3.0, not to mention after 4.0. You should have enough money prepared to get you all the way to top 3, so you won't run out half way while being stuck on 2nd page. And you will need patience too, because it will take months to rank everything nice and slow.
     
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    I'd say at least 1k for a solid 10 site PBN
     
  19. MikeyMikey13

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    How long is a piece of string? Joking, it is very hard to measure. you need to look at your competition and see what links they have, but bear in mind they could block bots with their network.
     
  20. onlineonly

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    Don't bother with PBN's. Much cheaper to buy a service from market place. For example there is one service who claim page 1 for only $3 and people are seeing results in just 2 days, I mean what could go wrong with a service like that + you save yourself a lot of money.