How much does drip feeding links matter?

I’m about to buy 20 pnb links, the seller suggested that I drip feed it 1 link per day.
I’m new to blackhat stuff, but wouldn’t gaining 1 powerful homepage link per day unnatural?
Does google penalize website for gaining too much powerful links too fast?

What's your existing link profile? If you already got a decent profile from high quality sources, it'll probably look OK. If OTOH you got a new site it wont work as you wish.

bartosimpsonio said:

What's your existing link profile? If you already got a decent profile from high quality sources, it'll probably look OK. If OTOH you got a new site it wont work as you wish.

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My site is not new, its a couple yrs old actually. But my link profile is not good, this is the first time I’m actually building links to it. I think my DA is only 20 at the moment.

All of my links came naturally but I wouldnt say they are high quality sites, more like small blogs

You should go with Drip feed as drip-feed backlinks are considered low risk, both in terms of SEO and penalties.

zona said:

My site is not new, its a couple yrs old actually. But my link profile is not good, this is the first time I’m actually building links to it. I think my DA is only 20 at the moment.

All of my links came naturally but I wouldnt say they are high quality sites, more like small blogs

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Actually you have the best link profile already - natural. Perfect to start a good link campaign. There sure are amazing PBN services here, but I would do a thorough research on the PBN itself if I were you. Don't mess it all up with some shitty easily detectable spam links.

Also - the small blog links gained over the years are very valuable - don't dismiss them. Even if they don't provide much "link juice", they are important contributors to the peer trust part of the algo. I would also try and find as many opportunities to get a link from their wider community - even if not 100% in the same "niche".

Good luck.

for new sites and for sites without many backlinks (like yours, for example) it matters, because google checks for patterns. And while not exactly a pattern, spikes in backlinks are still an indication that something happened there, something that wouldn't normally happen (as you could see from the backlinks you've gradually acquired over the years, all organically).

Blasting your site with 100s or 1000s of links at once - again, after having previously acquired only a handful of them and over long periods of time - will sure as hell mark your site as cheat and lose its rankings. Luckily, many times you can gain your rankings back after some time (could be months, could be years, in the case of 1 of my sites it's been 1 full year) and if you keep working on it (keep publishing more content, keep building more links like nothing happened, but in a more natural, DRIP-FED way). But why risk losing the rankings and being soft-penalized for years when you can DRIP-FEED your links from the get-go and have no headaches?

So yes, drip feeding matters. It's one of those things that SEOs do to keep their businesses safe from google's numerous checks

tazarbm said:

for new sites and for sites without many backlinks (like yours, for example) it matters, because google checks for patterns. And while not exactly a pattern, spikes in backlinks are still an indication that something happened there, something that wouldn't normally happen (as you could see from the backlinks you've gradually acquired over the years, all organically).

Blasting your site with 100s or 1000s of links at once - again, after having previously acquired only a handful of them and over long periods of time - will sure as hell mark your site as cheat and lose its rankings. Luckily, many times you can gain your rankings back after some time (could be months, could be years, in the case of 1 of my sites it's been 1 full year) and if you keep working on it (keep publishing more content, keep building more links like nothing happened, but in a more natural, DRIP-FED way). But why risk losing the rankings and being soft-penalized for years when you can DRIP-FEED your links from the get-go and have no headaches?

So yes, drip feeding matters. It's one of those things that SEOs do to keep their businesses safe from google's numerous checks

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Thanks for your reply! I'm actually only planning on building a handful of PNB links (15-30) to my site just to be safe and go hard on other types of links like guestpost and niche edits so I'm not blasting 100s of links to my site at once.

Can I ask if you were in my position, how much would you drip feed 20 homepage PNB links to your site? Is 1-2 links per day safe in your opinion?

zona said:

Thanks for your reply! I'm actually only planning on building a handful of PNB links (15-30) to my site just to be safe and go hard on other types of links like guestpost and niche edits so I'm not blasting 100s of links to my site at once.

Can I ask if you were in my position, how much would you drip feed 20 homepage PNB links to your site? Is 1-2 links per day safe in your opinion?

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20 is not much, you can actually build them all at once, I thought you were going to throw 1000s of web 2.0s and blog comments at your site, like most newbies do and then wonder why they don't rank

I would still split them into 2-3 batches over the course of 1 month, though... just for extra safety (yes, I am THAT paranoid lol)

@tazarbm : I'm fully with you on the drip-feeding and why it matters - especially if we talk about 100's of web 2.0s and 1000s of blog comments. Just want to add that spikes in new links discovered by the index are a natural thing on the internet - for example a viral piece of content gets shared by an influential account, some product is released, media news and events - I'm even betting a simple good piece of article on natural bee remedies gets shared in a "spiky way" on the beekeeping forums during season.

So it's all about context and of course taking into account the "meta" of current niche, own domain's history and typical statistical normallised behavior of the websites in the neighborhood.

20 pbn links in a day is not going to get your site penalized.
Google has a lot more important things to do than micro-managing this kinda thing.

Try blasting 2000 links if you really want their attention.

PaziMir said:

@tazarbm : I'm fully with you on the drip-feeding and why it matters - especially if we talk about 100's of web 2.0s and 1000s of blog comments. Just want to add that spikes in new links discovered by the index are a natural thing on the internet - for example a viral piece of content gets shared by an influential account, some product is released, media news and events - I'm even betting a simple good piece of article on natural bee remedies gets shared in a "spiky way" on the beekeeping forums during season.

So it's all about context and of course taking into account the "meta" of current niche, own domain's history and typical statistical normallised behavior of the websites in the neighborhood.

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yeah, the domain's history is important, that's why I keep telling people to stay within the average of their domain's history when building links...

And I also know that links gotten as a result of advertising / content going viral are a safe bet, but OP was speaking about manually building links, which is why I didn't address the viral aspect...

If you don't mind, can you please tell me what you mean by this statement "typical statistical normallised behavior of the websites in the neighborhood". I know what each word means, I just can't put them together to get the idea (I woke up a bit dazed and my head is still spinning). Please explain if you don't mind! Thanks

I don’t drip feed. I don’t care about if a website is new or not. I still get results in serps.

20 links made at the same time is not very many links at all. It’s up to you, but I can say with confidence it will be fine to build them and submit the pages to an indexer with no drip feed. I do 200 a day just like that.

tazarbm said:

If you don't mind, can you please tell me what you mean by this statement "typical statistical normallised behavior of the websites in the neighborhood". I know what each word means, I just can't put them together to get the idea (I woke up a bit dazed and my head is still spinning). Please explain if you don't mind! Thanks

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Just a fancy way of saying "do as the others do" to a degree. I assume Google has a pretty good idea about topic contexts - a large scale latent semantic indexing of all the text and media in a given field, niche, community etc. Same goes for their index of links and all the meta infrmation that is collected as well - when was the link published, how "the spike" progressed through time and "cyberspace" - e.g. - the different class C IP networks, what was the link context...and many other pieces of data.

So to stay off the radar atleast and not stand out as the anomaly that triggers flagging, inspection, testing a.k.a. The Sandbox, we should probably take advantage of respecting the niche's own "riythm" if you will ... A good exmple using the beekeeping website from my previous post would be to: Knowing our niche we expect that during the next 3 months lots of beehives will die seasonally from the "nosema" pest. Naturally there will be news, discussions on different platforms, weekly beekeeping publications will publish material on the subject which inevitabely will find it's way on the internet etc... So ...this will be a better time than any other in the yearly traffic / link aquisition cycle, which naturally forms on many websites. If for example we market a natural nosema solution - not only will it be more effective, but also much more safe to do more links per usual in the drip-feeding schedule...just by expecting the "buzz" and participating hard - google knows all this too and expects the yearly topic peak and is less likely to rank negativelly due to the "normal noice", that becomes our "link building campaign" during the regulary occuring higher rate of change in the cycle.

Step 2. Profit with hookers and blow

matters alot , as google check the submissions of every quality back links

Dripfeed is always better if you have such an opportunity. Especially if you site doesn't have enough backlinks so build new ones accurate/

It does only matter if the links are from some link farming PBN sites, just built to sell links.

PaziMir said:

Just a fancy way of saying "do as the others do" to a degree

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Ah-ha, got it!

PaziMir said:

I assume Google has a pretty good idea about topic contexts - a large scale latent semantic indexing of all the text and media in a given field, niche, community etc. Same goes for their index of links and all the meta infrmation that is collected as well - when was the link published, how "the spike" progressed through time and "cyberspace" - e.g. - the different class C IP networks, what was the link context...and many other pieces of data

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yep, I think so too...

PaziMir said:

So to stay off the radar atleast and not stand out as the anomaly that triggers flagging, inspection, testing a.k.a. The Sandbox, we should probably take advantage of respecting the niche's own "riythm" if you will ... A good exmple using the beekeeping website from my previous post would be to: Knowing our niche we expect that during the next 3 months lots of beehives will die seasonally from the "nosema" pest. Naturally there will be news, discussions on different platforms, weekly beekeeping publications will publish material on the subject which inevitabely will find it's way on the internet etc... So ...this will be a better time than any other in the yearly traffic / link aquisition cycle, which naturally forms on many websites. If for example we market a natural nosema solution - not only will it be more effective, but also much more safe to do more links per usual in the drip-feeding schedule...just by expecting the "buzz" and participating hard - google knows all this too and expects the yearly topic peak and is less likely to rank negativelly due to the "normal noice", that becomes our "link building campaign" during the regulary occuring higher rate of change in the cycle.

Step 2. Profit with hookers and blow

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I never thought (or even knew that this a thing) about google's expectancies, although it kinda makes sense... Anyway, taking advantage of this sounds good, thanks for the heads-up

Drip feeding doesn't matter.

Think about this.

A new brand is born every day through news and viral content. That project gets pounded with 1000s of links , rapidly. THat site tops search and becomes a hit.

It's all about the type of back-link and google DEFINITELY DOES recognize why your links are pouring in

If you're buying 100 News guest posts, it doesn't matter if all the articles are relatively similar headlines
If you're buying 100 random guest posts from low quality PBN sites, yeah, you should def drip and probably not even 1 a day

Based on the latest Google update, from what I hear, Low quality sites = out the door, anyway. . I was dealing with a client today and they made me aware of the update. Good luck. Hope this helps.

I don't think 20 links, drip fed one per day, is too much at all, especially on a site that's a couple of years old. Probably would be fine to add them even faster.

If a site suddenly gets a bunch of more links, it could be because it's going viral. The more Google already trusts your site the more it will be okay with spikes in links, or more willing to ignore links it thinks are spam. If after building links your rank drops, it's probably just a Google dance, and you shouldn't try to fix it and remove the links, or Google will know you were the one building them.