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How many time until it takes off by itself?

Discussion in 'YouTube' started by ravaell, Apr 23, 2017.

  1. ravaell

    ravaell Regular Member

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    Hello fellow members. I have a question that might seem noobish, but I`m a noob, so sorry.

    I`ve looked over some ways to make YouTube views and I chose to go with the view exchange system since it looks the most natural from all the other methods. [like buying fake views]

    I`m wondering if I keep adding 60-80 percent retention views to my video how long until it starts "working" by itself in the Music niche? My stuff is all original and my keywords are in a highly competitive niche. For my Title name I`m not even in the first 50 pages of YouTube search. For my stage name I`m on the third, respectively 7 and 9 positions, but then again there`s like 100 searches for this keyword every year.

    So, how many views do I have to keep adding until it starts getting views without any help?


    ALSO: If for example I buy from someone here in the marketplace, let`s say 1 million views will the video get recommended by YouTube to other users or will it just increase in rank for my keyword/s? Is there a chance for the video to get kind of blacklisted? I`m also running ads and I would hate to have my Adsense account disabled.
     
  2. ravaell

    ravaell Regular Member

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    bump! anyone? I know this is not a certain thing, but like on average how many views/likes/etc did it take for your video to take off and sustain itself without your help?
     
  3. german seo

    german seo Regular Member

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    Well, your doing it wrong. I am ranking my vids without any views and they do rank in YT as well in G.

    Maybe you should consider, getting embends, backlinks and social signals. The point is, views get more and more demoted as this is not a robust signal and can be easily manipulated.

    Let's consider you really buy 1 Mio views, which is a stupid idea in the first place. If you try this, without any measurable sharing on social media, you will get your ass blasted, much sooner then you think.

    Get social signals, followed by embends and then backlinks, everything in place start drip feeding your views. Looks much more natural and will you get ranked if you have a high retention video in the 75 - 85 % range.

    If you don't have that, you are throwing your money out of the window and you should focus on content quality first.
     
  4. socialmediapro

    socialmediapro Jr. VIP Jr. VIP UnGagged Attendee

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    Youtube isnt stupid it can track referrer and other things. Most of the views will either drop or wont show up. Best would be to purchase HR views if you really need and also they are adsense safe so you wont have any issues on your adsense account.
     
  5. ravaell

    ravaell Regular Member

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    The problem is, I don`t think ranking is going to do me any justice because I can only rank for 2 keywords that get MOSTLY 150-200 searches per YEAR. The other major keyword, I`ll never beat because it happens that my song title is actually the name of a famous musician that had songs on YouTube for the last 5 years and dozens of songs. [millions over millions of views]

    I was thinking more about recommendations like I receive when I`m on YouTube out of nowhere and sometimes I`m really intrigued and I do click on them. I actually do a lot of social signals [Twitter and Facebook mostly] I`ve got around 30 fake accounts to support me with real followers and from time to time I do exchange some retweets and favs from other people.

    I`m currently ranking number 7 on the first page of YT for those 2 non important keywords so I`m going to keep doing what I have been doing for the past 3 days and see if I`ll go up or down.

    My content is as good as possible, after all I`ve made it, 3 years of had work for just a couple of songs. I would just like to get some recognition for my work, that`s all, Im not in it for the money. :D
     
  6. german seo

    german seo Regular Member

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    Different story. In this case I would highly recommend to switch to vid.me and minds.com instead of Yt and Facebook. Large parts of the alternative media (Infowars, Molyneux, Sargon) already switched there and will pull thousands over thousands of people in.

    Better a shark in a lake, than fish in the ocean.
     
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    To be honest the content its what matter in first place, you you don't want to bump into googles hairy chest :D , They do have ways to give penalty to a crappy content video with huge traffic on it, you know , watching a 24minute minecraft video by a 12 y/o episode whatever 1435# with bad quality having huge views flow will make them alert that something is fishy, but if you sustain a regualr bases of uploading (good content) and driving to each video you release twice or 3 times a week will look natural > if every episode you'll upload x amount of yous , that's mean you need to sustain that certin x-Keywords-Upload_hour_alot_more_factors_ amount for the next video thats mean if your first episode made 25k and the next will be 17 and after wards 26 >>> its would look natural