How many backlinks should I make for a new website?

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Hi, guys
I saw some thread here that we could not get any backlinks for a new website during the sandbox period (which lasts for six months). I'm confused about whether or not I can get some backlinks for the new website.
If I can get some backlinks, how many backlinks should I get?
For example, ten backlinks for the first month
30 for the 2nd month
70 for the 3rd month
What do you think? I appreciate your sincere opinion!
 
Generally professed blackhat norm is to make some nofollow pillow links(least effective) like forums, comments, wikis than some guest post or PBN links !! The lesser the ratio (latter/former) the better !!
 
Hi, guys
I saw some thread here that we could not get any backlinks for a new website during the sandbox period (which lasts for six months). I'm confused about whether or not I can get some backlinks for the new website.
If I can get some backlinks, how many backlinks should I get?
For example, ten backlinks for the first month
30 for the 2nd month
70 for the 3rd month
What do you think? I appreciate your sincere opinion!
I would say create as many as your budget can afford. Don't go for low quality spammy links because they might end up hurting your site.

Another thing you should be mindful of is consistency.

I'd actually suggest you have a few content live on your site and indexed after that, keep sending quality links. Some to the homepage and others to inner post.
 
u all say " get quality backlinks " but what is a quality link? DA50+ 80+?.. or how does this count? please explain
 
u all say " get quality backlinks " but what is a quality link? DA50+ 80+?.. or how does this count? please explain
a quality link is a link that google hates less than all other links.

One of the most powerful ranking factors in google are backlinks, and google hates having its rankings manipulated and so it hates backlinks and backlink builders (ie. all of us, the SEOs and affiliate marketers). So, in an effort to stop us from manipulating the rankings by building links, google devalues every link that's free, easy to get, or both. They would devalue hard to get links, too (and they probably will at some point), but that would mean replacing the backlinks as a ranking factor with something else and I don't think that google has anything better to replace backlinks with at the moment.

That's why over the years article links have been devalued, then bookmarking links have been devalued, then wiki links, and lately web 2.0s links. Most people have easy and free access to such links, so google has to do something to stop us from getting them and since stopping millions of SEOs from building links is almost impossible (yes, even for a giant like google), it's much easier to simply devalue these links. Therefore, whenever google crawls pages and finds links from sources that google knows as being used by affiliate marketers and SEOs it simply devalues them (stops the link juice from flowing into the destination page, ie the page that the link points to). That's why, no matter how many millions of "garbage" (ie. free / easy) links you build you get no value out of them anymore. Sometimes, such links do help a little bit (SEO-wise), but only in very isolated cases and for extremely easy keywords which you could rank for even without those garbage links if you got your on-page SEO right.

With this info in mind, it's easy to see now what quality links means, which is... links that are hard to get, expensive to get, or both (luckily, there are places where you can get quality links for cheaper than what SEO agencies are charging and one of those places is our forum, but there are other places as well)

Now, just because a link is hard to get and / or expensive doesn't mean that it's automatically quality. You do need to pay attention to a few crucial elements of SEO in order to assess the quality of a backlink, and I'm not going to go into details on what constitutes a quality backlink because I don't have the time or the patience at the moment, but in general, a link coming from a site that meets all of these criteria is a quality link:

1) is indexed and ranking in google (since the website already ranks it means that it's trusted by google, therefore it gets google's vote of approval, therefore it will pass link juice over to your site if you manage to get a backlink from such a website)

2) is not seen as a link farm (it doesn't link out to non-popular sites in that particular niche from each and every single one of its pages. There are sites that link out to non-popular sites more than is healthy, and they do get away with it for years until google figures out what's wrong, but it's generally not a good idea to link out to other people's sites from each one of your content pages)

3) is not a web 2.0 site (basically, it's not open for registration and use by others, and not for free anyway. Any website that allows you to sign up for free and post content on your account is usually not worth getting backlinks from because either 1) the backlink is nofollow'd, which means that it doesn't pass link juice to your site, or 2) the site is free to use, therefore it loses some of its value. There are several sites out there - like gumroad, or telegra.ph - that do have some SEO value despite of being web 2.0s technically, but for some reason google has not devalued those yet. So you can safely use them for now, and some of these sites are being made public quite often on the forum, so keep an eye on them and as soon as you find out about one of these sites jump in and create a backlink fast before the site nofollows your links or disables the option to post content. Many of these sites do turn their backs to SEOs, so you need to act quickly when you find such sites)

4) the link is d0follow (this is extremely important because backlinks appended / prepended with the "rel=nofollow" tag do not pass link juice, therefore they won't give you any SEO value, so they won't increase the authority of your domain, which is exactly what you want, that's the whole reason of acquiring backlinks in the first place. So, if you're paying for a "quality" backlink make sure that it's not tagged with the nofollow tag, because if it is tagged like that you're getting ripped off. The only reason you might want to get nofollow links - and you should get them! - is to keep your backlinking profile looking natural, because google will punish you if it only sees d0follow links. So, get a few nofollow links - say, 5-10% of your total backlinks - just for diversity purposes and then move on to more important links, which are the d0follow links)

There might be more criteria.... actually, there is more criteria (such as: type, placement, proximity of other links, relevance of content surrounding the backlink, UR of the page giving you the backlink, number of OBLs on that page, number of RDs of the domain, its DR, etc.) that makes a backlink quality, but I'm not going into more details as you can look stuff like this up in google or on this forum. There's plenty of info on these topics, you just have to want to look it up and to read upon it.

I saw some thread here that we could not get any backlinks for a new website during the sandbox period (which lasts for six months)
this is not true. Actually, this does not apply to all scenarios. It might be true for some niches and / or sites, but it's definitely not true for all niches and sites. I've had sites ranking within weeks, and others staying in sandbox for over an year, despite of building links to them. It's a per niche / per site basis

I'm confused about whether or not I can get some backlinks for the new website.
you can get links to new website. Just start off slowly so you can stay safe. If you're gonna build 100 backlinks to the same page of a 10 days old site (just example numbers, it doesn't need to be 100 links or 10 days old site) you'll most likely trigger one of google's numerous flags and pattern detection algorithms and might get your site sandboxed for 1-2 years, which I don't think you'll want :)

Just start off with a few backlinks per month (preferably the good types of backlinks, not the usual web 2.0s and article directories that newbies get because they're free and easy to get), and then increase gradually over several month until you get the rankings you desire. Just make sure to post content regularly all-the-while, as well, otherwise you might raise some red flags. It might not happen, but it's better to be safe

If I can get some backlinks, how many backlinks should I get?
SEO is not exact science, so there's no number that's written in stone. Just get your keyword research properly and, if you manage to do this, you will rank without needing a single backlink (in the beginning anyway)....
 
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a quality link is a link that google hates less than all other links.

One of the most powerful ranking factors in google are backlinks, and google hates having its rankings manipulated and so it hates backlinks and backlink builders (ie. all of us, the SEOs and affiliate marketers). So, in an effort to stop us from manipulating the rankings by building links, google devalues every link that's free, easy to get, or both. They would devalue hard to get links, too (and they probably will at some point), but that would mean replacing the backlinks as a ranking factor with something else and I don't think that google has anything better to replace backlinks with at the moment.

That's why over the years article links have been devalued, then bookmarking links have been devalued, then wiki links, and lately web 2.0s links. Most people have easy and free access to such links, so google has to do something to stop us from getting them and since stopping millions of SEOs from building links is almost impossible (yes, even for a giant like google), it's much easier to simply devalue these links. Therefore, whenever google crawls pages and finds links from sources that google knows as being used by affiliate marketers and SEOs it simply devalues them (stops the link juice from flowing into the destination page, ie the page that the link points to). That's why, no matter how many millions of "garbage" (ie. free / easy) links you build you get no value out of them anymore. Sometimes, such links do help a little bit (SEO-wise), but only in very isolated cases and for extremely easy keywords which you could rank for even without those garbage links if you got your on-page SEO right.

With this info in mind, it's easy to see now what quality links means, which is... links that are hard to get, expensive to get, or both (luckily, there are places where you can get quality links for cheaper than what SEO agencies are charging and one of those places is our forum, but there are other places as well)

Now, just because a link is hard to get and / or expensive doesn't mean that it's automatically quality. You do need to pay attention to a few crucial elements of SEO in order to assess the quality of a backlink, and I'm not going to go into details on what constitutes a quality backlink because I don't have the time or the patience at the moment, but in general, a link coming from a site that meets all of these criteria is a quality link:

1) is indexed and ranking in google (since the website already ranks it means that it's trusted by google, therefore it gets google's vote of approval, therefore it will pass link juice over to your site if you manage to get a backlink from such a website)

2) is not seen as a link farm (it doesn't link out to non-popular sites in that particular niche from each and every single one of its pages. There are sites that link out to non-popular sites more than is healthy, and they do get away with it for years until google figures out what's wrong, but it's generally not a good idea to link out to other people's sites from each one of your content pages)

3) is not a web 2.0 site (basically, it's not open for registration and use by others, and not for free anyway. Any website that allows you to sign up for free and post content on your account is usually not worth getting backlinks from because either 1) the backlink is nofollow'd, which means that it doesn't pass link juice to your site, or 2) the site is free to use, therefore it loses some of its value. There are several sites out there - like gumroad, or telegra.ph - that do have some SEO value despite of being web 2.0s technically, but for some reason google has not devalued those yet. So you can safely use them for now, and some of these sites are being made public quite often on the forum, so keep an eye on them and as soon as you find out about one of these sites jump in and create a backlink fast before the site nofollows your links or disables the option to post content. Many of these sites do turn their backs to SEOs, so you need to act quickly when you find such sites)

4) the link is d0follow (this is extremely important because backlinks appended / prepended with the "rel=nofollow" tag do not pass link juice, therefore they won't give you any SEO value, so they won't increase the authority of your domain, which is exactly what you want, that's the whole reason of acquiring backlinks in the first place. So, if you're paying for a "quality" backlink make sure that it's not tagged with the nofollow tag, because if it is tagged like that you're getting ripped off. The only reason you might want to get nofollow links - and you should get them! - is to keep your backlinking profile looking natural, because google will punish you if it only sees d0follow links. So, get a few nofollow links - say, 5-10% of your total backlinks - just for diversity purposes and then move on to more important links, which are the d0follow links)

There might be more criteria.... actually, there is more criteria (such as: type, placement, proximity of other links, relevance of content surrounding the backlink, UR of the page giving you the backlink, number of OBLs on that page, number of RDs of the domain, its DR, etc.) that makes a backlink quality, but I'm not going into more details as you can look stuff like this up in google or on this forum. There's plenty of info on these topics, you just have to want to look it up and to read upon it.


this is not true. Actually, this does not apply to all scenarios. It might be true for some niches and / or sites, but it's definitely not true for all niches and sites. I've had sites ranking within weeks, and others staying in sandbox for over an year, despite of building links to them. It's a per niche / per site basis


you can get links to new website. Just start off slowly so you can stay safe. If you're gonna build 100 backlinks to the same page of a 10 days old site (just example numbers, it doesn't need to be 100 links or 10 days old site) you'll most likely trigger one of google's numerous flags and pattern detection algorithms and might get your site sandboxed for 1-2 years, which I don't think you'll want :)

Just start off with a few backlinks per month (preferably the good types of backlinks, not the usual web 2.0s and article directories that newbies get because they're free and easy to get), and then increase gradually over several month until you get the rankings you desire. Just make sure to post content regularly all-the-while, as well, otherwise you might raise some red flags. It might not happen, but it's better to be safe


SEO is not exact science, so there's no number that's written in stone. Just get your keyword research properly and, if you manage to do this, you will rank without needing a single backlink (in the beginning anyway)....
Wow very in deeepth!!! Thanks alot for this man
 
I wouldn't care much about the amount of links... as long as they are decent links.
70 links a month is not easy.
 
sandbox isn't specifically 6 months. some people dispute if sandbox is even real (although many of us have experienced it).
Just try to perfect your on-page SEO and post your link on social media a handful of times, see if you can break into the top 100 results that way (for low competition keywords) and then build at a non-suspicious level.
 
Are all the URLs of your site indexed yet?
I wouldn't spend on backlinks (good ones), until the site is completely indexed.
Nor would I do backlinks in an unnatural fashion, ie. one month 12 links, the next 0 links, next 2 links, next 0 links, next 24 links, next 0 links, and so on.
 
a quality link is a link that google hates less than all other links.

One of the most powerful ranking factors in google are backlinks, and google hates having its rankings manipulated and so it hates backlinks and backlink builders (ie. all of us, the SEOs and affiliate marketers). So, in an effort to stop us from manipulating the rankings by building links, google devalues every link that's free, easy to get, or both. They would devalue hard to get links, too (and they probably will at some point), but that would mean replacing the backlinks as a ranking factor with something else and I don't think that google has anything better to replace backlinks with at the moment.

That's why over the years article links have been devalued, then bookmarking links have been devalued, then wiki links, and lately web 2.0s links. Most people have easy and free access to such links, so google has to do something to stop us from getting them and since stopping millions of SEOs from building links is almost impossible (yes, even for a giant like google), it's much easier to simply devalue these links. Therefore, whenever google crawls pages and finds links from sources that google knows as being used by affiliate marketers and SEOs it simply devalues them (stops the link juice from flowing into the destination page, ie the page that the link points to). That's why, no matter how many millions of "garbage" (ie. free / easy) links you build you get no value out of them anymore. Sometimes, such links do help a little bit (SEO-wise), but only in very isolated cases and for extremely easy keywords which you could rank for even without those garbage links if you got your on-page SEO right.

With this info in mind, it's easy to see now what quality links means, which is... links that are hard to get, expensive to get, or both (luckily, there are places where you can get quality links for cheaper than what SEO agencies are charging and one of those places is our forum, but there are other places as well)

Now, just because a link is hard to get and / or expensive doesn't mean that it's automatically quality. You do need to pay attention to a few crucial elements of SEO in order to assess the quality of a backlink, and I'm not going to go into details on what constitutes a quality backlink because I don't have the time or the patience at the moment, but in general, a link coming from a site that meets all of these criteria is a quality link:

1) is indexed and ranking in google (since the website already ranks it means that it's trusted by google, therefore it gets google's vote of approval, therefore it will pass link juice over to your site if you manage to get a backlink from such a website)

2) is not seen as a link farm (it doesn't link out to non-popular sites in that particular niche from each and every single one of its pages. There are sites that link out to non-popular sites more than is healthy, and they do get away with it for years until google figures out what's wrong, but it's generally not a good idea to link out to other people's sites from each one of your content pages)

3) is not a web 2.0 site (basically, it's not open for registration and use by others, and not for free anyway. Any website that allows you to sign up for free and post content on your account is usually not worth getting backlinks from because either 1) the backlink is nofollow'd, which means that it doesn't pass link juice to your site, or 2) the site is free to use, therefore it loses some of its value. There are several sites out there - like gumroad, or telegra.ph - that do have some SEO value despite of being web 2.0s technically, but for some reason google has not devalued those yet. So you can safely use them for now, and some of these sites are being made public quite often on the forum, so keep an eye on them and as soon as you find out about one of these sites jump in and create a backlink fast before the site nofollows your links or disables the option to post content. Many of these sites do turn their backs to SEOs, so you need to act quickly when you find such sites)

4) the link is d0follow (this is extremely important because backlinks appended / prepended with the "rel=nofollow" tag do not pass link juice, therefore they won't give you any SEO value, so they won't increase the authority of your domain, which is exactly what you want, that's the whole reason of acquiring backlinks in the first place. So, if you're paying for a "quality" backlink make sure that it's not tagged with the nofollow tag, because if it is tagged like that you're getting ripped off. The only reason you might want to get nofollow links - and you should get them! - is to keep your backlinking profile looking natural, because google will punish you if it only sees d0follow links. So, get a few nofollow links - say, 5-10% of your total backlinks - just for diversity purposes and then move on to more important links, which are the d0follow links)

There might be more criteria.... actually, there is more criteria (such as: type, placement, proximity of other links, relevance of content surrounding the backlink, UR of the page giving you the backlink, number of OBLs on that page, number of RDs of the domain, its DR, etc.) that makes a backlink quality, but I'm not going into more details as you can look stuff like this up in google or on this forum. There's plenty of info on these topics, you just have to want to look it up and to read upon it.


this is not true. Actually, this does not apply to all scenarios. It might be true for some niches and / or sites, but it's definitely not true for all niches and sites. I've had sites ranking within weeks, and others staying in sandbox for over an year, despite of building links to them. It's a per niche / per site basis


you can get links to new website. Just start off slowly so you can stay safe. If you're gonna build 100 backlinks to the same page of a 10 days old site (just example numbers, it doesn't need to be 100 links or 10 days old site) you'll most likely trigger one of google's numerous flags and pattern detection algorithms and might get your site sandboxed for 1-2 years, which I don't think you'll want :)

Just start off with a few backlinks per month (preferably the good types of backlinks, not the usual web 2.0s and article directories that newbies get because they're free and easy to get), and then increase gradually over several month until you get the rankings you desire. Just make sure to post content regularly all-the-while, as well, otherwise you might raise some red flags. It might not happen, but it's better to be safe


SEO is not exact science, so there's no number that's written in stone. Just get your keyword research properly and, if you manage to do this, you will rank without needing a single backlink (in the beginning anyway)....
Thanks very much for your complete suggestion!!!!! May I ask the last question? How should we know that our site is in the sandbox period?
 
The total number of links to your website can be checked in your Google Search Console dashboard. You just need to go into the Search Traffic section. There you will be provided with the total number of links.
 
An exceptional ranking is considered to be between 60 and 100. A 40-50 ranking is acceptable. A ranking below 40 isn't great. High-domain authority websites relevant to your niche can be linked to build high-quality backlinks. Searchers all over the world will trust these sites.
 
Check your competitors link building with Ahrefs or a similar tool to see how many links they are building monthly, it should give you a good idea. Just stick to high quality backlinks for tier 1, what's your monthly budget?
 
So, is spending money the best way to get quality backlinks? Nowadays it's not as easy as a few years back. If you had the money, where would you spend it to get good backlinks?
 
Generally professed blackhat norm is to make some nofollow pillow links(least effective) like forums, comments, wikis than some guest post or PBN links !! The lesser the ratio (latter/former) the better !!
Like a lot of members have already answered in my experience it's far better to focus on QUALITY over Quantity when it comes to backlinks. 1 high quality link can have the same effect as literally 1,000 backlinks. What's the best method to attract quality links? Really indepth/unique/engaging content. Produce some of this and you'll have a "link magnet"
 
Your backlink velocity should have a balance with your brand awareness, social media presence, and traffic. If none of your pages rank, you don't have any followers on social media, and you have negligible traffic, then it's better to avoid creating backlinks. If you're a celebrity, then f$#k sandbox, you can create 1000 links per day without any issues.
 
Thanks very much for your complete suggestion!!!!! May I ask the last question? How should we know that our site is in the sandbox period?
check your GSC's Performance section, and if your site gets no impressions it's sandboxed for sure.... unless, it's downright deindexed, but I'm hoping that this is not the case :)
 
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