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How long to get BANS on serps?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by tattoo, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. tattoo

    tattoo Regular Member

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    I registered a new domain, put up a bans site in a targeted niche, and the site has pages that are more relevant than most of the results that come up in the Google SERPs (urls and title tags that match the search term, etc) but I'm not showing up on the first SERPs.

    I've bookmarked the site on several bookmarking sites, and have several incoming links with the right keyword, but it's not helping. It's only been a week or so, but I'm wondering how long I need to wait before I can see my BANS site showing up in the search results.

    How long does it take you guys on average to make it onto the first 2 or three pages of results?
     
  2. pixelgrinder

    pixelgrinder Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    The thing that concerned me about BANS was that lack of real content and the footprint it would leave when trying to rank in the SERPS. If anyone has had success ranking high with BANS, please let me know how you are able to accomplish this.
     
  3. Gerula

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    I never use the built-in templates; I always use custom made templates and I never have a site with bans alone. bans is just one way of making money from a site; add category descriptions and articles plus some other type of offers, collect emails and build a sales funnel. With enough links I can rank for some competitive terms. My bans revenue is about 40% of the total site revenue. Hope this helps.
     
  4. razohad

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    basicly higher ranking is maily up to backlinks
    and pr, the more backlinks (good ones) the higer your pr
    and the higer you rank in your keyword.

    if you say its only been a week , pr update is not done every day you know,
    o just waid a while and you'll see the results.
     
  5. tattoo

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    thanks guys.

    i was concerned about the footprint too. i dropped the 'powered by..' bit, because i figure google wil sooner or later penalize these sites as duplicate content (of ebay). i also put in extra content, and i plan on buildng more and more pages onto it that are not auction-related. i've also attached a blog to it, so hopefully that will help over time.

    so i searched in google for 'powered by b*ans' and got a HALF MILLION RESULTS!!

    so there's some saturation there...
     
  6. mightybh

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    I never have problems with bans not being indexed. Check your server logs and see if Google spider actually visited you yet.
     
  7. engine102

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    I have used a mix of both preowned domains and new domain names for my BANS sites. I have about 50 so far, and I can tell you that it can take a week to a month to get the new ones indexed and in the serps.

    I would highly recommend changing the template, or coming up with a new and unique one. The free ones that you find are fine, but they are getting over used as well.

    I have had better luck with more commissions with my aged domain names that I have bought.

    I have also removed all of the "powered" by links because I wasn't getting any traffic from them, plus the big footprint it was leaving. I was getting a lot of hits on my niche sites from people searching for that.

    As for the footprint, I agree that you need some content on each store page to help more. You can use an article that is rewritten, or I have been researching the items on my store page and writing about them, sort of a mini-review of the products. It has seemed to help.

    Almost all of my .info domains were deindexed in this last google-goround a few weeks ago, so I am busy adding content to the sites and other stuff and then going to ask for reinclusion.

    A thin affiliate site will get you deindexed. A thin affiliate site is one with just the basic BANS items on it and no useful content.

    Hope that helps some!
     
  8. tattoo

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    i've gotten indexed. just not showing up on the top serps...
     
  9. tattoo

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    okay that's good to know. thanks. i used the template that it came with but modified it.
     
  10. engine102

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    Ok, since you are indexed, depending on several factors, such as how much competition, the strength of the backlinks for your competition, etc, etc is what makes it depend on when you will start showing up on the front page of the serps.

    You will need to check out the serps results on the front page of Google or Yahoo and see what their backlinks look like. If you beat their backlinks, then after time you will be right up there.

    SEO Elite is a great tool to use to check out your competition, you can find it on here, just search for it.