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How long does it take to make money from SEO?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Walt Heisenberg Jr, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. Walt Heisenberg Jr

    Walt Heisenberg Jr Registered Member

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    I've been lurking around this forum for a good few years and recently decided to join in. If you can weed out the crap on this forum, there's a ton of brilliant stuff that's made me a lot of money by testing.

    I'd like to contribute something in case anybody finds it useful.

    Now think about this for a moment.

    You spend around 17 years in what the government likes to call ?education?.

    By the time you?ve graduated, you?re in $30,000 debt (probably more), and you?re struggling to find a job that pays you what you think you deserve.

    Now, what if instead of spending those 3/4 years in university, and instead of wasting? I mean spending $30,000 in tuition and other costs associated with going to Uni, you invested that money into learning another trade.

    This trade does not require you to spend a substantial amount of money or time on learning it.

    And once you do learn it, you?ll be making some serious money immediately.

    This trade I?m talking about, yes you?ve guessed it smart ass, is SEO.

    Yes, SEO can make you some serious cash? but not for free.

    Just like spending all that money on education, you need to invest in learning SEO.

    And I?m not talking about taking courses about SEO.

    I?m talking about investing your money in experiments.

    Experiment with ranking parasites.

    Experiment with building and ranking authority sites.

    Experiment with ranking local sites and then renting them out to businesses.

    Yes, it does cost money to run these experiments.

    You need to pay for links? a lot of them. Or just build a PBN yourself.

    If you?re paying for links then you need to spend money to weed out the crappy PBN suppliers and find a supplier that you know will provide you with the top level shit.

    There?s loads of ways you can do your testing, but once you find something that works, just keep on repeating it and re-investing your earnings on more tests.

    If you?re a total newbie, the fastest way to make money with SEO is by ranking parasites. But you need to invest.

    You can either use GSA (which is a learning curve), or buy quality spam from the BST section.

    What seems to be working well for me is Spam + SAPE/ PBNs.

    But like I said, you need to experiment.

    You need to experiment to see what anchor percentage works best, what?s the right type of link velocity, whether SAPE links work well or whether your PBN links work better, and on and on?

    And experimentation costs money.

    But this money is far less than what you would have spent in education, while the ROI being much much higher.

    Not to mention the freedom that comes with it.

    I?m not saying quit your job and start doing SEO.

    No.

    I?m saying, invest part of your income in experimenting, and once you find something that works, you?ll be churning out money like no tomorrow.

    You need a regular source of money coming in, in order to invest.

    So if you don?t have a job, get one.

    There?s a lot of great content on here which can be the basis of your experiments.

    Happy rankings.
     
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  2. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    tl;dr I am sure it was a great first post
     
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  4. Walt Heisenberg Jr

    Walt Heisenberg Jr Registered Member

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    Yep, I'm thinking of doing a few case studies if anyone's interested.
     
  5. Asif WILSON Khan

    Asif WILSON Khan Executive VIP Premium Member

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    OP, I am using FF and when i took a look at the 4 day old site set as your BHW homepage, I could not read anything.
    You might need to work on the fonts or colours.

    http://www.whoismind.com/whois/epiklinks.com.html

    I had to copy and paste it to see it.


    Also if the link is secret, why have you posted it on your BHW profile?
     
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  6. bmac

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    I have to agree with you, if you look at what you spend on education and the time spent you could spend that same amount of money in a business and work hard for the four years it normally takes to go to college and at the end of it usually you are better off but a lot of it depends on your work ethics. You have to be the type person that gets out of bed every morning with a goal and a mission to make money that day. Many people does not have this drive (prob more on this site than in general) and those people will prob not be able to run a successful business no matter how much they invest.
     
  7. Trepanated

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    Oh no - not another 'I am a money making god, I will post some case studies soon... oh and by the way, I also have a secret PBN you can buy links from' thread
     
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  8. Walt Heisenberg Jr

    Walt Heisenberg Jr Registered Member

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    Nice investigative skills yo.

    Didn't realize anybody looked at profiles.

    Since I manually pick people to use my PBN, I don't see any issues with letting them sign up.

    I'll probably need to change that text though, thanks.
     
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    Guys, what's up with all the hate?

    I think some of this info is pretty useful. It's not like he told you to go look at his profile then go to his site
     
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    Trepanated Supreme Member

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    No hate from me.

    But we get this disingenuous type of first post all the time and the signs are clear.
     
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  11. Walt Heisenberg Jr

    Walt Heisenberg Jr Registered Member

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    That's right.

    I'm bad.
     
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  12. kacsa1337

    kacsa1337 Junior Member

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    What you are saying in the first few paragraph is PURE BULLSHIT:)
    But from this line: "Yes, SEO can make you some serious cash... but not for free. " is true and i agree.
    I saw the same advice at least hundred times, but its still cool and not BULLSHIT.