How is this site approved by G???

qwicksilver · Sep 7, 2011

So I was looking around trying to learn a thing or 2 and I decided to research some possible competitors.

How did this site pass G adwords when it is a crappy LP with custom post script for the first page of the advertisers site?

Soon as you click submit with all your information it takes you straight to the 2nd page of the submit, but on the real site. (simpletuition(d0t).com)

Ok, here is a competitors site I am talking about: privateloancomparison(d0t)com

I thought G didn't allow things like this?

Please help, I am really confused right now...

no4ck · Sep 7, 2011

qwicksilver said:
So I was looking around trying to learn a thing or 2 and I decided to research some possible competitors.

How did this site pass G adwords when it is a crappy LP with custom post script for the first page of the advertisers site?

Soon as you click submit with all your information it takes you straight to the 2nd page of the submit, but on the real site. (simpletuition(d0t).com)

Ok, here is a competitors site I am talking about: privateloancomparison(d0t)com

I thought G didn't allow things like this?

Please help, I am really confused right now...

What do you mean how did Adwords approve this? I'm pretty sure you can advertise just about any site through Adwords that you want... I wouldn't think that this has anything to do against their service agreement.

It's just like posting up a CPA offer and marketing it through Adwords. They want your money.. and if you're going to pay to get clicks to the site.. they're going to take it.

qwicksilver · Sep 7, 2011

I mean you might as well be direct linking...

The LP is pretty much iFramed except they used custom code instead of an iframe.

It is as close to direct linking that you can get, which I thought was against Gs ToS?

no4ck · Sep 7, 2011

qwicksilver said:
I mean you might as well be direct linking...

The LP is pretty much iFramed except they used custom code instead of an iframe.

It is as close to direct linking that you can get, which I thought was against Gs ToS?

I could see it being against TOS for Adsense type of stuff... but not adwords. They're buying traffic to their website... what it does after you get there is a whole nother thing.

I'm sure G didn't check out the site and fill out the form to see what happened. They're basically doing a CPA offer and pulling info through after you click submit.

I don't know much about the adwords TOS - but I wouldn't think that this would be against it. Adsense... probably... but adwords, I don't know... but I would guess not.

qwicksilver · Sep 7, 2011

I tested the site, and after I clicked submit on the site privateloancomparison(d0t)com the offer was credited. I know this because I had my cookies loaded in by mistake instead the site owners cookies (he didn't get the money I did). It's ok though I told them (the network) and they took care of it.

I still don't see how this can be on G adwords...If they don't allow an iframe, how can they allow this?

hurn · Sep 7, 2011

Tottaly noob statment.. read google tos before posting something. Adword almost close all the doors to CPA. It is difficult to promote CPA offers without a authority site or with brand new idea.

no4ck said:
What do you mean how did Adwords approve this? I'm pretty sure you can advertise just about any site through Adwords that you want... I wouldn't think that this has anything to do against their service agreement.

It's just like posting up a CPA offer and marketing it through Adwords. They want your money.. and if you're going to pay to get clicks to the site.. they're going to take it.

qwicksilver · Sep 7, 2011

hurn said:
Tottaly noob statment.. read google tos before posting something. Adword almost close all the doors to CPA. It is difficult to promote CPA offers without a authority site or with brand new idea.

Thank you, that is what I thought. But could you please help me understand this a little more? Is this site privateloancomparison(d0t)com in compliance with G? Or did they just have a different LP to get it approved, and then switch it out?

no4ck · Sep 7, 2011

hurn said:
Tottaly noob statment.. read google tos before posting something. Adword almost close all the doors to CPA. It is difficult to promote CPA offers without a authority site or with brand new idea.

I was actually just giving my thoughts about it - hence the way it's worded..."I'm Pretty Sure"... "I would think"... I don't do any adwords campaigns dealing with CPA or IM in general - only company websites that I've built and do some promoting for... so give it a break dude.

Sometimes sites just get through... and I highly doubt G went through and tried the form.

qwicksilver · Sep 7, 2011

no4ck said:
I was actually just giving my thoughts about it - hence the way it's worded..."I'm Pretty Sure"... "I would think"... I don't do any adwords campaigns dealing with CPA or IM in general - only company websites that I've built and do some promoting for... so give it a break dude.

Sometimes sites just get through... and I highly doubt G went through and tried the form.

But if it looks like a cpa offer, smells like a cpa offer, and tastes like a cpa offer....it's probably a cpa offer. I just want to know how things like this get through? Do they have a different LP before approval and once it is approved switch it out?

no4ck · Sep 7, 2011

qwicksilver said:
But if it looks like a cpa offer, smells like a cpa offer, and tastes like a cpa offer....it's probably a cpa offer. I just want to know how things like this get through? Do they have a different LP before approval and once it is approved switch it out?

I would say that is a possibility - but I'd hate to SPECULATE at all because I'm sure Hurn would take what I say as a fact and beat me up again.. :crutch:

However, I'm sure they could have done a bait and switch... but I would think G might catch on eventually.

clin407 · Sep 8, 2011

We do this for our clients, although our clients are the schools and we represent them...but in terms of what we are capturing, it could be considered to be just like these (single page sites -> fill out form -> thank you message). Never had a problem with approval.

I guess in the end it depends on the content of the offer/site.

JohnnyRabbit · Sep 8, 2011

Not surprised, google allows a lot of stuff you probably don't know about

Cnotey · Sep 8, 2011

Have you ever actually read Google's TOS? Why not just go read it for yourself? Are you too lazy? Do you not know how to get to the page with G's TOS? What exactly is keeping you from researching this yourself?

LucidMarketing · Sep 8, 2011

qwicksilver said:
It is as close to direct linking that you can get, which I thought was against Gs ToS?

Where do you see that in the TOS?

Let's put this myth to rest. God knows I've tried elsewhere to no avail but, there is nothing that says you cannot direct link from your ad to an affiliate site. What the affiliate site's LP must do is comply with all their rules, CPA offer or not.

I did not check the site out but what you describe is not against any of their rules. In fact, this is exactly how they expect you to do it if you have your own domain. I agree though, why bother and not direct link in the first place although there could be instances such as the case clin407 describes.

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