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How hard is it to be in first 6 result ?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by StormSlash, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. StormSlash

    StormSlash Registered Member

    Jun 21, 2011
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    killing homeless people
    -- there is more than 200 million site coming up when you search it
    -- keyword have 2 word in it
    -- competition is (very) low according to googlekeywords
    -- every site that is in first 6 have both words at their title
    -- two sites have one of each word in their domains
    -- all sites have both words in directories(i mean like xdotcom/xy)
    -- my domain have one of words in domain.(first word)
    -- sites in first 6 result are pr 3 between 7 mainly 3 and 5.
    -- there is about 7500 search every day
    -- it is a photo thing and first 4 search is replaced by photos. people using that query is looking for photos.

    tell me, how hard can it be to climb to first page for a newbie ? is this keyword worth working on it ? is it possible to get in first page and make profit ?

  2. toyo


    Dec 20, 2008
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    One thing that I have noticed is that Google pays a lot of attention to Fresh Results, and pages getting new backlinks in recent times. That explains why some PR0 fresh site can beat established pages with high PR.... You might have a chance.
  3. NapsteR

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  4. MisterF

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    What do you mean by fresh results, please?
  5. jumpjumper

    jumpjumper Registered Member

    Oct 22, 2009
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    Depends... It sounds tough. I would only go for it if you had alot of money to buy in services. If you dont, its not worth it.
  6. starcity83

    starcity83 Regular Member

    Jun 30, 2011
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    It's quite an accomplishment in any case. Great job!
  7. seo jack

    seo jack Junior Member

    Apr 23, 2011
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    Sounds like time and money. Be ready to dig in and get your wallet out!
  8. CustomerSer

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    Mar 21, 2011
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  9. bobbylove321

    bobbylove321 BANNED BANNED

    Nov 8, 2008
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    IF you have the exact words in your domain, not just one, and you get 2,000+ social bookmarks from several places that WORK, then you can be in the top 3 pages of google within 15-30 days, and then you can go from there.

    Your costs in total for the social bookmarks would be less than $200
  10. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

    Mar 3, 2011
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    Fucking hard from my exp so far :D.

    I've done harder things in my life comparatively but ye not easy or everyone would be doing it.

    But I'm sure like everything else it gets easier when you know how. Which I don't...yet.
  11. Ranko Jones

    Ranko Jones BANNED BANNED

    Mar 3, 2011
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    I don't this this is a good assessment. Cos when you say 'just go from there' it's like you're saying most of the work is over once you get top 3 pages but anyone with experience will tell you that that is nothing.

    Indeed the work only just begins there since to beat the first 10000050 might be the smallest margin but to beat the last 50 would be the real competition.

    Like in a race saying 'just beat the shittest runners and most of the work is done' when it's the ones at the front who offer most competition and will be hardest to overtake.
  12. altaris

    altaris Registered Member

    Apr 24, 2011
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    -- competition is (very) low according to googlekeywords <-- This only mean that you will make no money unless you have affiliate products.