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How everyone here could make a full time living online

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by shezboy, May 24, 2015.

  1. shezboy

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    In a way it pains me to browse through BHW and see the 1,000's upon 1,000's of members who spend time here looking for the 'answer' which will allow them to move forward and make a full time income online. This isn't BHW's fault per se as the forum serves an immense purpose and literally hands anyone who wants it the power to break out of the viscous circle of working for a living that serves only to put a roof over their heads and food in their belly.

    That cycle is nothing more than slavery and SO many BHW members could step put of that cycle by this time tomorrow IF only they could funnel just a fraction of the information that is freely available in this one forum in to something they can use.

    Now I'm not a millionaire. I am not some big dog, big shot that makes $100,000's a year while sitting in a hammock on a beach sipping some fancy sounding cocktail while topping up my tan. So who am I to tell people that they can step forward and move out of the never ending cycle that they're seemingly trapped in from now until the day they die?

    I am just a normal guy - nothing more and nothing less but I don't go to work every day and I don't have a boss. I make money, I don't earn it. There is a huge difference there.

    But I used to be the guy that was trapped in the slave cycle for many years until I jumped out of it so I know what I'm talking about and I have seen both sides of things. It's not always been easy and SO many times I doubted and questioned myself and was inches away from throwing in the towel and going back to where I came from.

    The difference is that I didn't give up and I have the determination to always make what I do I work out for the best and that's what I wish for every single member of this forum who actually wants it.

    Do You Want It?

    That's the most important question that not only will you need to ask yourself but you'll need to PROVE it, both to yourself and everyone else around you.

    So back to the point of this post.....

    I have said this over and over again, there is all the information you will ever need to make a full time income within BHW but you HAVE to be able to weed out the information that you don't need to focus only upon the information you need. That is the key, focusing on the information that you need.

    But how do you know what info you need?

    Yeah, that's the bitch of it really. From 100 ways that you can use to replace your day job income not everyone one of them is going to be the right choice for you BUT for the love of your own sanity you HAVE to realize that right here are all the people you will ever need that can answer pretty much ANY question you have when it comes to working out the right path you need to take.

    Look around this forum. Take some time looking through the serial posters who hand out help and advice every day that can literally change your life. These guys know some serious shit and have all the answers you need and all you have to do is reach out to them. Hell, you can reach out to me on the forum and ask me what ever you want. Ask my biz partner, Haspel, what ever the hell you need to know and we'll happily hand you the answer in the same way that 101 other respected and knowledgeable BHW members will.

    I won't name names because that would be the equivalent of me volunteering them without asking them first.

    Spoonfeeding isn't the answer you're looking for because you'll learn shit-all by having someone handing you the answer to questions you never even thought of asking. That's what learning is all about. Knowing what questions you need to ask and then finding the answers to them.

    Finding the answers is easier than knowing what the right question is to ask.

    And I think that is what holds back so many people from making it online. It's a shame really as the potential to make it is hiding inside of people but they don't know it.

    The bottom line is that making money via the internet isn't a magical mystery at all but it does take work, determination and focus which are three of the most vital things that you will need. So take your BHW membership regardless of what level it is and use it with focus rather than flicking around from section to section looking for the answer to a question that you haven't even asked.

    If you don't know what question you should have asked then how will you ever know the answer you're being given is the answer that you're looking for?

    Shez
     
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  2. NoGameNoLife

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    Totally agree that you need to find something that suits your abilities best and GO FULL AT IT,There are tons of different methods to choose and everyone can use them,that's why I love IM,you are your own boss and and do what you can best,
    oh and also for money of course,three times of average wage in my country by doing a fraction of work is not a bad deal:D
     
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  3. faisalmaximus

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    Very true, I am on my 7th year now, still searching answers. My income from online market is handsome, but not enough to fulfill my thirst.
     
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    Some will win
    Some will lose
    Some were born to sing the blues
     
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    I do agree to an extent though, if you're a noob now it is so much harder to make a living in IM, everybody and his dog is doing it, i mean the competition is fierce even in the most small back alley niches it is getting harder and harder to make a living (i am talking about $2500 to $5000 a month)

    A lot of the methods here are dated and yes you can and should put your own spin to it, but how can you spin shit if you don't know shit, after all were talking n00bs here :) I am glad that i got in IM when i did (2002) because if i had to step in now i don't know if i would have the patience to put in the time and the money that is needed to learn stuff like SEO, youtube, social media, building sites knowing that it is freaking hard to rank even for the easy longtails these days.

    So if you're a n00b reading this post, don't think for a second you're gonna be making a steady income in the range of $2500 $5000 a month by the end of this year, cus you're probably wont, if you do than kudo's to you, you can consider yourself a real IMer, but my bet is that you will not, not to discourage you, but it is fucking hard and you will only get there if you work hard, in IM just like in real business are no lasting shortcuts.

    You have been warned :)
     
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  6. Vrill

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    Thats economicly not possible that everyone is going to make full time living at the same time ;)
    Only the most dedicated and experienced people will make good money the rest will get peanuts.
    Have a look at the ecommerce volume and have a look at the webmaster numbers over the past 10 years
     
  7. deedee1whoa

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    Read the whole post, it's motivational...
    I've been in the money making online game for quite a while.
    Still open to new methods etc. I think you're mostly right.
     
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  8. redarrow

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    I think there millions on the . net to earn every day there a new adventure going on and us imera can earn of there backs,

    it about taking action and stop reading and atleast stick to one project on this forum.

    i agree it takes already made cash but without cash you are in a hole
    example say you want all the applications then your need money.

    hosting
    proxies
    domains
    de capcha
    ect ect

    like i say we all need money to start a proper working project

    the old days have gone there nothing out there untapped that free
     
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  9. shezboy

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    If you have a day job at the moment then simply set aside some money from that and invest it in yourself to buy the things that you need to make more money from that investment.

    Shez
     
  10. seapunk

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    If you honestly think millions of incompetent idiots can make a living spamming links and writing articles in broken English, you're completely deluded.

    Where is all this money going to come from?

    In before you try to be clever and argue that "a few" people on Black Hat World are not following some 2 year old "method" like SAPE links through a 301'd expired domain to make $12 a day.
     
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    The title of the thread is "How everyone here could make a full time living online" and as BHW doesn't have "millions of members" who are (and I quote your words) "incompetent idiots" I don't see why you're approaching this from the direction that you are.

    As for the broken English...Do you really feel that anyone who can't speak fluent English can't make money online or run/own a business?

    If you maybe looked beyond a country whose first language isn't English you may be surprised to know that in non English speaking countries there are people who actually work for themselves. Heck, some of them even run their own business and, believe this or not, some of those people actually employ others too. Yeah, I know, you probably think I'm kidding you on but I swear it's the truth for real.

    Here, let me give you a real life example for a sec. I live in the UK which is pretty much an English speaking country. A while ago we had new neighbours move in next door. A real nice couple that had just moved over from Turkey. The guy couldn't speak much English at all. I mean it was very broken English, while his wife could get by but was by no means fluent.

    He opened up a barbers shop and a few months later they bought the unit next door to his barbers shop which they opened as a nail bar run by his wife. And all this from two people who only spoke broken English.

    I am far from deluded (but I thank you for your compliment anyway) and I wouldn't be so defeatist and naive to think that someone who wasn't fluent in English couldn't make it full time online.

    There is a lot more money in the world than you can imagine and plenty enough to be made by members here to be able to replace their income.

    And regarding the last part about SAPE link methods, I'm not really too sure what you you're going on about there. The sentence didn't really make too much sense.

    Shez
     
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    If you think the only ways to make money online are writing articles and spamming links, then you have a whole lot to learn. There is enough information in here for anyone to make a living online.

    @Shez, nice post :beerchug:
     
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  13. seapunk

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    And yet, I'd put money on the fact that 99.9% of Black Hat World members don't make a living online.
     
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    lol
    i am sure that you will lose all your money.

    1-there is a lot of BHW member who make a lot of money online.
    2-about english...you are competely wrong ...i know a ot of indian people who are smart and they are making a lot of money online
    even arab people i can give you a list about friends of mine who became millionnaire by doing cpa and affiliate marketing

    the difference is
    there is poeple who do not beleive in our selves they want to work for another person they want a boss they wait for their salary every month
    and
    people who want to make money...and hope to be one of them
     
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    i am sure that you will lose all your money.

    1-there is a lot of BHW member who make a lot of money online.
    2-about english...you are competely wrong ...i know a ot of indian people who are smart and they are making a lot of money online
    even arab people i can give you a list about friends of mine who became millionnaire by doing cpa and affiliate marketing

    the difference is
    there is poeple who do not beleive in our selves they want to work for another person they want a boss they wait for their salary every month
    and
    people who want to make money...and hope to be one of them
     
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    No shit. You'll win that bet all day, everyday. No one is arguing with that. The reason they don't is because most of them won't do what needs to be done. It has absolutely nothing to do with them not being able to do it
     
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    Totally agree.

    I am an example of someone who is not a native English speaker. But I've come to the point where I can actually at least speak decent English because I DECIDE to learn it. Because I know that it is important for me to be able to speak decent English if I WANT TO SUCCEED online.

    It all comes down to yourself. Do you want it? If you really want it, nothing can stop you and you'll do ANYTHING it takes to SUCCEED.

    Here I am, within 5months of my IM journey and I'm making decent amount of money... I decide to learn, I read and most importantly I TOOK ACTION. No excuses, no BS reasons, no Blaming.

     
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    That's a good way to put it. This is the WORLD wide web, so it doesn't have much to do with language barriers. It's about a work ethic. Something a lot of Americans seem to be lacking in 2015.

    We're talking about making a full time income online here. I agree with another poster here who said to find what you're good at, what your natural talent is, and go full-tilt. With writing, which is my forte, that would mean getting a journalism degree from the online extension of a brick and mortar college and throw the content mills in the garbage can. Go for the work that pays a salary that would equate to 20 cents a word. And if people scoff at the notion that you can get paid that kind of money by writing online, they just don't know what the hell they're talking about.

    With writing, people need to remember that the more profitable way to go is to realize that you need to mix the online work with online and offline connections. Just because you make money online doesn't mean that EVERYTHING involved with the work has to originate and stay online.
     
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