How does this guy always rank #1?

It has around 3 "301 redirects".
Second, the guy has scraped relevant sites for getting these links.
Third, the guy has also added in high pr blog comments.

Maybe there are also pbn links which are blocked from crawlers...

I get 1 and 3. But "scrapped relevant sites for getting these links" I'm not sure. I understand scraping for content and scraping a site for it's backlinks. When you say, "getting these links" do you mean he managed to get links from the relevant sites in addition to 301'd domains and high pr blogs? Can you shed some light?

Thanks!

bb
 
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So we can post links of anyones site anytime we want but the second someone asks "hows that site ranking", it's against the rules?

Don't you find it somewhat ironic that we can't analyze a site's backlinks on a marketing forum of all places?

It's not really ironic at all. You're right that there are a lot of websites mentioned on this forum, and a lot of times it's not considered a problem at all. In those cases though it's usually the kind of natural link to a website based on it's content. The kind of thing like hey check out this video, or hey check out this great deal on whatever. In those cases it kinda just depends on what its about as to whether it violates any rules. But it's a completely different thing when a website is posted so as to scrutinize what's being done to rank it.

Yes, this is a marketing forum and it would be great if we actually could post example websites that are doing great, but in the process of doing that you're also placing a beacon on that guys website telling google, potential competetors, clients, advertisers, and anyone else that might have an interest in whether he's doing things the way they think it should be done. A lot of the seo strategies discussed on this forum violate the guidelines of companies and corporations that we depend on for that very ranking.

This isn't some weird arbitrary rule. How would you feel if you had worked hard and spent a lot of money getting your own sites to the #1 placement in the serps and then your site gets slapped down, not because you made a mistake to draw googles scrutiny to your site but because what you were doing was highlighted on a marketing forum.

Every one of us on this forum with websites have to be concerned about that very thing happening to our own sites. We can't prevent that from happening sometimes, but as a precaution a forum rule was made here to prevent inadvertently drawing attention to what one of our peers might be doing.
 
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Churn and burn these days is all about who can build up the highest amount of link juice to propel their sites towards the top without triggering any algorithmic filter (or figuring out a way of escaping from it once they get caught in it). The owner of the site in question is probably doing the same thing, and that's why he dominates competitive SERPs.
 
Well, the fact that you're not picking up his backlinks means he's probably using something like SpyderSpanker or otherwise blocking spiders from picking those up.
So there's something to learn from him right there.
 
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I have a question to all expert.If it can be get rank only using organic SEO(without payment)please clear me about my question.
 
It's not really ironic at all. You're right that there are a lot of websites mentioned on this forum, and a lot of times it's not considered a problem at all. In those cases though it's usually the kind of natural link to a website based on it's content. The kind of thing like hey check out this video, or hey check out this great deal on whatever. In those cases it kinda just depends on what its about as to whether it violates any rules. But it's a completely different thing when a website is posted so as to scrutinize what's being done to rank it.

Yes, this is a marketing forum and it would be great if we actually could post example websites that are doing great, but in the process of doing that you're also placing a beacon on that guys website telling google, potential competetors, clients, advertisers, and anyone else that might have an interest in whether he's doing things the way they think it should be done. A lot of the seo strategies discussed on this forum violate the guidelines of companies and corporations that we depend on for that very ranking.

This isn't some weird arbitrary rule. How would you feel if you had worked hard and spent a lot of money getting your own sites to the #1 placement in the serps and then your site gets slapped down, not because you made a mistake to draw googles scrutiny to your site but because what you were doing was highlighted on a marketing forum.

Every one of us on this forum with websites have to be concerned about that very thing happening to our own sites. We can't prevent that from happening sometimes, but as a precaution a forum rule was made here to prevent inadvertently drawing attention to what one of our peers might be doing.

Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly explain that.

I've been very curious about this topic (and made a thread about it in the lounge like an hour ago) but you're the only person who explained it so well and so clearly.

I really appreciate that. :)

-BB
 
It has around 3 "301 redirects".
Second, the guy has scraped relevant sites for getting these links.
Third, the guy has also added in high pr blog comments.

Maybe there are also pbn links which are blocked from crawlers...


How do you know since the link is removed?
 
I get 1 and 3. But "scrapped relevant sites for getting these links" I'm not sure. I understand scraping for content and scraping a site for it's backlinks. When you say, "getting these links" do you mean he managed to get links from the relevant sites in addition to 301'd domains and high pr blogs? Can you shed some light?

Thanks!

bb

He scraped relevant sites and then used these in GSA SER to get relevant links. But the GSA stuff was just there for diversification. I am sure there were pbn links in action for ranking such a term.
 
How would you feel if you had worked hard and spent a lot of money getting your own sites to the #1 placement in the serps and then your site gets slapped down, not because you made a mistake to draw google scrutiny to your site but because what you were doing was highlighted on a marketing forum.

I suspect the OP knew exactly what he was doing ;)

That's why I don't give advice on these sorts of threads anymore. 99% of the time the OP never returns anyway, the thread has already done it's job.

On a side note, fair play to Old Salt for removing the link quickly! (Tips Cap to a fine Admin)

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What was the link? I'd like to take a closer look too.
 
I suspect the OP knew exactly what he was doing ;)

That's why I don't give advice on these sorts of threads anymore. 99% of the time the OP never returns anyway, the thread has already done it's job.

On a side note, fair play to Old Salt for removing the link quickly! (Tips Cap to a fine Admin)

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I'm right here. It doesn't matter if that guys site gets slapped down because he has at least another 50 with good ranking, and ready to be ranked to number 1 again. He probably makes a killing. Anyways, if you guys want to see the site, it's number one for keyword, "film streaming" for google.fr. It looks like he has a lot of PBN links, and just threw in around 5k GSA links for diversification.
 
He scraped relevant sites and then used these in GSA SER to get relevant links. But the GSA stuff was just there for diversification. I am sure there were pbn links in action for ranking such a term.

I appreciate your reply, DatMoney.

I have never used GSA SER though I've become more curious lately.

Thanks!

bb
 
On a side note, fair play to Old Salt for removing the link quickly! (Tips Cap to a fine Admin)

Yep. Old Salt sure knows how to rank a site LOLZ. :p


*please don't ban me OS, i couldn't help it
 
To OP, he's probably using a PBN and like everyone doing it well, the majestic/ahref/... bots can't crawl his PBN (.htaccess is your friend).
 
It doesn't matter if that guys site gets slapped down because he has at least another 50 with good ranking.

Does not mean you can simply be the judge of that, people am I the only one seeing this
 
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