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How Does Google Takes Down Private Blog Networks?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by willinabox, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. willinabox

    willinabox Registered Member

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    Ok - so I'm just wondering - how does google flag these large blog networks?

    Do they see a nework of sites all pointing to the exact same sites?

    Say you build manually 400 web 2.0's on separate IP's hosts, private domains, etc. And you have say 20 money sites - If you point ALL of them to your money sites - Will google see a footprint?

    -Will
     
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    Articleteller Registered Member

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    Chances are google will spot things if it is the same across the 20 sites, i would always vary it up for each site by 25% or so.
     
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    Google looks for discernible linking patterns and abnormal correlations when they flag suspicious link profiles with unnatural link warnings. As I'm learning, Google has very specific link graph patterns that they look for when identifying these unnatural links. Link profiles that contain a large concentration (say 90%+) of weak, non-trusted links are steadily being flagged. Using buffer sites is a good strategy but to avoid detection, I wouldn't point every single one of these 2.0 sites to all of your money sites. I would mix in authoritative, non-competitive links on those pages pointing back to your money sites, and above all, avoid those obvious patterns in your linking profiles. Randomize the number of your money sites you're linking to with your 2.0 sites and use natural looking anchor text pointing back to your money sites with more branded, ie http://www.yourmoneysite.com, yourmoneysite.com, Your Money Site, Click Here, Visit Us, etc and less generic SEO'd anchor text. The key is to avoid easily identifiable, abnormal linking correlations. Hopeful
     
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    Something somebody should also point out that if it's a private blog network that you're able to purchase your way into, chances are, someone from the Google Search Quality team has purchased links from them, and the report that follows will be domains that they review and penalize (or de-index completely.)

    This is something a lot of SEO's tend to forget... Google isn't dumb, and they're constantly finding ways to detect people violating their guidelines.
     
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    This is correct. I have seen it happened to my competitors, while my end is unaffected. :)
     
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    No matter which private network do you bought your links, if you site is strong enough - age - auth - a lot of domains pointing - and for last some private BN links, there will be no problem. But yes i your main power is from private networks then it will be matter.
     
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    Nerevar Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Sign up for any of the semi/private blog networks. Add an article and somewhere in between or at the end, enter a unique 10-digit code. Wait for the article to be published to blogs in the network. Rinse and repeat multiple times. Find the blogs that have the 10-digit code and deindex them.

    There's no need for complicated algorithms.
     
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    So this is how Google deindexed blog networks like BMR? Insert a ten-digit code into tens of thousands of blog posts?

    It would take years for Google to deindex a semi-significant number of blogs with that method.
     
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    lol, i doubt Google is doing that.. they have better automatic mechanisms to detect networks.. no matter what you do, how secure you are, you always leave a footprint. Just 1 is needed and the whole network is being detected and busted..
     
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    People once said it would be impossible for Google to manually rate sites on the web. At network of 100-100,000 sites is relatively small to them.
     
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    Well, they can do that, if they want to. However, keep in mind that they have automatic system that is continuously tracking such thing. They might not be able to catch it the first, second, third or even 5th attempt, but they continue tweaking it to fulfill its purpose.

    As innozemec said... one mistake is all it takes to track down the entire network.
     
  12. Kimi

    Kimi BANNED BANNED

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    You mean public blog networks. Private blog networks never get down. Private is private.
     
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    Private blog network will get down, if you failed to maintain OBL's, who.is, unique IP's, original articles & private :)


    Cheers!
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    Anything that is indexed by Google is far from private.
     
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    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    People are talking about 3 different things in this thread.

    Web 2.0's
    Private blog networks
    Public blog networks

    For networks, there are many ways to get taken down and if you don't take steps to avoid getting taken down, you will go down.

    Someone mentioned unique identifiers (10 digit code). This is exactly what happened to ALN. Providers/suppliers placed random strings of characters so they could give reports to clients. This unique identifiers made it very simple to map the entire network.

    Build My Rank lost over 4000 domains because they believed private registration was secure.

    Good networks that last a long time (mine has been up over two years) have taken even more steps to stay under the radar.
     
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  16. mailingmax

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    If you leave footprints, you leave footprints. This could be the same IP, registration, same OBL, theme, content and so on. To do it properly you need to think through each one.