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How do you rank website with no content?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by waitier, Aug 28, 2014.

  1. waitier

    waitier Power Member

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    I have seen quite a few sites that has words less than 50 yet they are ranking #1. Ranging from medium to hard competition kw.

    My question is, how do you do it?

    I've done some research and my guess could be:

    1. That person has other content which are no-index (not sure how significant)

    2. They have subdomains aiming for different sub niches (also not sure how it affects)

    I'm reading plenty of suggestions, even from the pros, that says the site needs words of at least 500 per page, and the site must have at least 10 to 15 articles. And within the content, it must have link-out to authority sites.

    If that was true at all, how do you explain sites like one I just mentioned? Little to no words, no link out to any sites at all. Just a plain landing page.
     
  2. Advancing

    Advancing Newbie

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    My guess is 301s?
     
  3. nakamura

    nakamura Senior Member

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    Check out their backlinks profile.
     
  4. JournoNick

    JournoNick Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Um, links?
    Seriously, you don't need a text to code ratio to rank a website.

    Make sure you optimise the Title, Metadata and have good H tags in place. Make sure all your code is valid and your website is fast. Add great landing pages and the appropriate microdata.

    Easy!
     
  5. SEO Power

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    As long as your site contains at least one word (relevant or not) and the title contains your target keyword, you can rank well with the right links. Content is not as important as some make it out to be.
     
  6. waitier

    waitier Power Member

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    Keep 'em coming. I like debates like these. I've asked privately to some top BH link sellers, and even they suggest I give it more content, and get at least 10 articles going. No matter what, even they admit it silently "content is king". To that, I am somewhat disappointed with their answer.
     
  7. The SEO

    The SEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Common sense? Think again. The amount of times I've had a client buy SEO for a site that had just Wordpress installed, a title, a tagline and no content and complain why they weren't ranking is surprising. You need content to rank. Yes, it isn't whitehat SEO, but you need to give Google some base knowledge on what your site is about.

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    FingerFlyer Junior Member

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    Google wants us to think that quality content is the best way to rank a site, but apparently it's not the only way. The backlinking could have more to do with the situation. And, though Google rewards high quality content sites such as Wiki's, they still reward sites that get high page rank backlinks from credible sites.
     
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    I've seen the same thing, particularly across retail e-commerce websites. No content on-page but still ranking in the top 3 results for medium-high keywords.

    The first thing I do with client sites is get some high quality, unique and optimised content up on them, without it you're fighting a losing battle.
     
  10. Gyuman82

    Gyuman82 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    If you don't have good content, the only way you can rank for med-high competition keywords is with strong links.

    It's not rocket science people.
     
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    Just tell us what you've seen after checking their backlinks profile.
     
  13. waitier

    waitier Power Member

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    I appreciate answers that says "link=content" or even better "link>content"

    I do like to try out with a blank page that links alone can rank #1 for kw and content plays 0 part in it. I mean, for all that matters, who's the one that put the idea of 500 words, 10 articles, link to authority sites, blah blah was necessary?
     
  14. ill-repute

    ill-repute Registered Member

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    waitier,

    You're asking the right questions.

    The problem with the so-called requirements is that a lot of people never distilled, by running tests, what is the purest way to rank.

    Some looked at their on and offsite factors of a website they managed to rank and concluded that, to be safe, they better replicate these factors for their subsequent websites if they want to rank. Others inquired those who are ranking and asked them about their on and offsite factors, and took it as gospel (even if it wasn't sold as such). Others, the self-styled gurus, just pulled the requirements out their ass.

    A lot of misinformation has been spread about what is required. If something helps to rank, that is one thing. If it is required, is another.

    Although it's not a blank page, someone on here ranked a GoDaddy parked domain with Sape links in the 20s to 30s position. Technically, it did have content (whatever the default content is for parked domains), but it obviously had nothing to do with the keywords he was trying to rank for.

    Here is the case study:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...56767-case-study-churn-burn-301-redirect.html
     
  15. xoziggieox

    xoziggieox Registered Member

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    prob. 301 redirect but also text isn't required. You can definitely rank with just links.
     
  16. topd0g

    topd0g Newbie

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    The game we live in is all about links :) have you checked there backlink profiles? Content is not what its made out to be :)