How do you hide ownership?

donaks · Jul 24, 2022

if You not hide Your data on registrar then everyone can see it.

bitanga · Jul 24, 2022

donaks said:
if You not hide Your data on registrar then everyone can see it.

Sure, but most registrars have whois protection that is included in the price / for free. Except that, is there a reason to spread out your domains to different registrars?

janist · Jul 25, 2022

bitanga said:
Sure, but most registrars have whois protection that is included in the price / for free. Except that, is there a reason to spread out your domains to different registrars?

Registrars run varying promos throughout the year. So having a few at your disposal can significantly reduce your average cost per domain - this is especially useful when you grow past 100 domains (e.g. with a PBN).

Having said that, there's really no need to have more than 3-4 registrars (Dynadot, Namesilo, Name, Netim, etc.) for anything < 500 domains. And if you only want to host 10-20 domains, one registrar is good enough.

seancoder · Sep 20, 2022

Wow so why on earth would I get to pay for domain privacy in the first place. I thought that would do the trick.

Sartre · Sep 20, 2022

just use Namecheap guys

jengu · Oct 4, 2022

mancunian said:
Google is a registar of domain names that gives it access to the ownership of every doamin out there.

Unless you buy doamins via a completely anonyous service (which do exist) Google can always find out who owns your websites

Could you please provide a source of this claim? I have not found any evidence that suggests that registrars can access domain ownership information of domains that are not registered with them.

xReminisce · Oct 4, 2022

jengu said:
Could you please provide a source of this claim? I have not found any evidence that suggests that registrars can access domain ownership information of domains that are not registered with them.

They can most likely force a legal claim if needed and make registrars comply and hand over any data on your account for sure.
Although, I highly doubt google has direct access to any of these besides their own registrar
Thus why, I tend to always use fake details + crypto payment to stay completely anonymous when buying. (Yes, I know, the risk of not getting my domains ever, but that's the risk i'm ok with)
Afterall, this is blackhat seo, where things crumble before you can even fix it.

jengu · Oct 5, 2022

xReminisce said:
They can most likely force a legal claim if needed and make registrars comply and hand over any data on your account for sure.
Although, I highly doubt google has direct access to any of these besides their own registrar
Thus why, I tend to always use fake details + crypto payment to stay completely anonymous when buying. (Yes, I know, the risk of not getting my domains ever, but that's the risk i'm ok with)
Afterall, this is blackhat seo, where things crumble before you can even fix it.

Absolutely, as well as any government agency. However, Google being able to directly link domains to owners I am yet to find a credible source on. In most European states it would also probably be illegal, due to GDPR.

scheit · Oct 5, 2022

bitanga said:
Say that you are running many sites in the same nische, competing for the same keywords. I guess Google does not like that. How do you hide that you are the owner of all ths sites?

Different IPs are good I guess, but if they are all linked to the same GA account, Google knows that they are related. Do you use separate GA accounts for every site?

I don't think it's a problem if you are running multiple sites in the same niche. As long as you don't use them as PBN's or something I don't think you have any reason to hide it.

I also have a few sites in the same niche competing for the same keywords on the same server with the same GA accounts etc., and this haven't been a problem.

sageshark · Oct 5, 2022

blackbeans said:
The first step to hiding your ownership of a blog network is to make sure you host different blogs at different hosting sites.

Ideally, you should pick hosting services from all over the world.

There shouldn't be a footprint regarding your blog network when it comes to hosting infrastructure.

The next step is to make sure that you register with different domain registrars.

Here's an important step: Make sure all of those registrars provide anonymity services.

This means if somebody is going to try to look up your WHOIS information, they're going to get the generic WHOIS info for your registrar.

It's also important to make sure that you use different themes and different content strategies so there are no tell-tale signs regarding the look and feel of your blogs.

Using the steps above, I will find it amazing if somebody figures out that you own this network.

It may seem like a hassle, but it's definitely worth it considering the tremendous amount of manual and algorithmic penalties that Google has been dishing out since May of this year.

I like the idea of hosting sites with various hosts and registering domains with different registrars for the sake of protecting your identity from the big G. This indeed is a hassle but it is worth it.

janist said:
Running your own instance of Matomo is possibly the best alterrnative

Looks like Matomo is a better alternative of GA. But once your site grows to max you will have to buy their premium plan.

Also guys do we have any substitute for Google Search Console?

vic_im · Oct 5, 2022

If you're not having sites for PBN's, I wonder why it's important to hide sites using different niches. Does Google penalize one performing site if another in the same GA or GSC went bad? I doubt they're so evil...

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