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How Do Managers Make $ From DJs?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by SpellZ, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    I tried to Google it, but I couldn't find what I was looking for.

    So my question is, how does the manager make money from the DJ?
    Here is what I think, and correct me if I'm wrong please. The manager is the person who books the DJ at the venue right? And then the manager gets a cut from the performance? I don't know how much is it, 10%, 15%, 25%?

    So if they paid a DJ $1000, the manger will get around $150 from it?

    Is that how it goes?

    Okay, well... Let's say it's a small time manager and a small time DJ.
    The DJ gets booked by himself once every 2 weeks. The manger comes in and tells him, "Okay, from now on... all the bookings that will happen, will go threw me, and I get 15% of the cut", so what happens if the manager doesn't get any bookings through him, but the 2 gigs a month that the DJ use to get before the manager calls him up, goes through the manager, and the manager pockets 15% from a gig that was there even before he showed up?
     
  2. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    No, no.
    Okay, lets say...

    YOU are the DJ
    I am YOUR MANAGER (You are under a record company).

    I book you, the club pays you $1000, I get 15% of it which is $150.
    But what if a club books you that you already been booked in before every week?
     
  3. Skyjockey

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    Yes the mgr take's a % also the mgr negotiates the pay rate including a % of the door if the owner is charging a entrance fee. The mgr is usually in charge of promoting his DJ or band. It's a huge job with a great amount of work involved. Sometimes you will dig into your own pocket to get the ex poser needed to make your DJ or band be in demand.
    Performing for free at events is a good way of staying in demand. At these events you can publicly announce where you will be performing. Bars are always willing to offer you weekday playing time. I could go on and on. I gave it up! I'm to old for it now. It's a young mans game. BTW carry a Gun.
     
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  4. pisco

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    Well that would depend on the contract, if the DJ is allowed to arrange gigs independently, than the manager has nothing to do it with it (neither gets involved in anything related to those gigs), the cut would only come in manager arranged gigs, seems logical enough.

    Another thing to consider is that the manager usually does a lot more than just book the gig, he should arrange everything related to it, promoting, gearing up the venue and so on.
     
  5. SpellZ

    SpellZ Regular Member

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    Okay, so a follow up of that would be...

    Do big names like Eminem, Tiesto, Armin Van Burreen, Jay-Z, 50 Cent, etc, etc.
    The TOP TOP BIG NAMES...

    Do they have managers?
    They don't need them, do they? Because they will get gigs every day for tons of money, so why need a manager?
     
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    no they have managers, that would be like saying steve jobs doesn't need a coder b/c he runs apple. most managers are attorneys and good at redlining contracts and making sure that everything is on the up and up.
     
  7. Skyjockey

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    When you and your mgr made the agreement did you exclude the weekly gig? If no pay your mgr his %.(put the burden on him to promote it and neg more pay) If not everything is in your hands. A good performer can demand and get what he wants.
     
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    Wombat your sig had me going. LMAO thats a good one. :confused::hijacked:
     
  9. ExtraWinner

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    LOL, I was an DJ for some time, even created some songs that are still on MySpace... I am friend with one of the big ones (name not to be spoked).

    If you are manager and you get 15% then you should change your profession.
    Managers get up to 50%. On new comers they will make 70-80%

    Big start as Jay-Z will pay only like 20-25%

    But in this manager will cover all expenses like marketing, looking for leads etc...