How do I Start my own CPA network?
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i'm not worried about the work
do you think you could spare some time to mentor me?
i'm more wanting to start it fresh not hop on hasoffers etc.
i have quite a network and i own a direct mail business that gets into hundreds of thousands of homes a month here in the US
and i think i can leverage that access to people
but how to get deals work payouts etc. setup interface etc.
that is where i need the guidance
justin
do you think you could spare some time to mentor me?
i'm more wanting to start it fresh not hop on hasoffers etc.
i have quite a network and i own a direct mail business that gets into hundreds of thousands of homes a month here in the US
and i think i can leverage that access to people
but how to get deals work payouts etc. setup interface etc.
that is where i need the guidance
justin
paperdonut
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PM me and I'll tell you what I know about affiliate networks. I used to work for one.
oxonbeef
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If you don't know before you start you don't stand a chance.
BTB and myself bought an already functioning network. Even then
the learning curve and workload is tremendous.
The hasoffers platform alone costs $800 a month to have any funtionality.
You say you don't want to jump on hasoffers so are you going to spend
tens of thousands haveing a custom solution coded to track conversions, clicks, fraud monitoring ect?
I don't think you have thought this through.
BTB and myself bought an already functioning network. Even then
the learning curve and workload is tremendous.
The hasoffers platform alone costs $800 a month to have any funtionality.
You say you don't want to jump on hasoffers so are you going to spend
tens of thousands haveing a custom solution coded to track conversions, clicks, fraud monitoring ect?
I don't think you have thought this through.
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i've been a member of yours since you started.... you are actually what inspired me i've seen you go through the ups and downs a bit
oxonbeef
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Let me tell you, It's been a bloody nightmare sometimes.
Me and BTB have actually said to eachother "if we wern't such stubborn SOBs
we would've given up ages ago".
But we have a good team on board and we are improving everyday.
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AdisLCS
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I was looking into something like this too but I gave up on reinventing the wheel. Too expensive, exhausting and unpredictable. I rather stick to a proven system/model/structure and slightly modify it.
You have to keep in mind it is not hands off, at least until you get it systematized, automated, outsourced (hired).
When I was thinking of building my social network, I was looking at ton of options and features and about 8 months programming and $50K. Well I said screw this and got out of the box solution, modified it and got it running for $1000.
You have to keep in mind it is not hands off, at least until you get it systematized, automated, outsourced (hired).
When I was thinking of building my social network, I was looking at ton of options and features and about 8 months programming and $50K. Well I said screw this and got out of the box solution, modified it and got it running for $1000.
zero-day
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Tracking platform
Anti-Fraud system
Advertising
Overhead
Affiliate Managers
Over 1,000 hours of time, literally before you get anywhere, that would be 41 1/2 days (non-stop) of working before you really see any results.
A few thousand dollars to float payments if the advertisers you use don't pay.
And that's all on a big IF.
IF your network is successful
IF you have good offers that convert
IF you pay on time
IF you have good affiliates and quality leads
IF you have zero fraud
IF you have advertising in the right places
IF you know how to properly screen affiliates
IF you know exactly what CPA is and how to do it to tell your affiliates what to do if they ask
IF your offers pay good
IF you check the offers to make sure they are live and not dead
IF your network is designed right
IF you are friendly and are readily-available for affiliates
and many....many more things.
This all is just the beginning of what you need. Not even 1/4th of it is listed here.
Anti-Fraud system
Advertising
Overhead
Affiliate Managers
Over 1,000 hours of time, literally before you get anywhere, that would be 41 1/2 days (non-stop) of working before you really see any results.
A few thousand dollars to float payments if the advertisers you use don't pay.
And that's all on a big IF.
IF your network is successful
IF you have good offers that convert
IF you pay on time
IF you have good affiliates and quality leads
IF you have zero fraud
IF you have advertising in the right places
IF you know how to properly screen affiliates
IF you know exactly what CPA is and how to do it to tell your affiliates what to do if they ask
IF your offers pay good
IF you check the offers to make sure they are live and not dead
IF your network is designed right
IF you are friendly and are readily-available for affiliates
and many....many more things.
This all is just the beginning of what you need. Not even 1/4th of it is listed here.
I actually coded an entire cpa affiliate marketing network front end and backend including an automated windows based phone verification system. I have coded(programmed) for over 10 years and it took me about a month of on/off work. For the fraud monitoring I wrote my own system as well but there are 3rd party solutions available to save you the expense. The reason I wrote my own system was because hasoffer/cake marketing/linktrust did not have what I wanted, so I kinda combined all their ideas into my own platform.
If you hire a good programmer and have the money for the 3rd party monitoring you can get up and running quickly. The biggest thing is bankroll, without it you will fail. You also need the affiliates and let me tell you, a lot of them are fraudsters and will lie to you at all costs. It is a cut throat business, so good luck.
If you hire a good programmer and have the money for the 3rd party monitoring you can get up and running quickly. The biggest thing is bankroll, without it you will fail. You also need the affiliates and let me tell you, a lot of them are fraudsters and will lie to you at all costs. It is a cut throat business, so good luck.
MiLiTARYiV
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Whatever you do dont use hasoffers, and watch out for your affiliates. Keep it small maybe 50-100 affiliates
xpwizard
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In all honesty this is how it plays out 95%:
- A person decides they want to start a network as they aren't making a lot via CPA
- The network is HasOffers based and is run off their free month trial
- All offers are procured from networks already running through another network (You get the offers from Network B, who gets offers from Network A, who in turn is running through the advertiser)
- You then find yourself in the deep end with high amounts of fraud
- The network/advertiser drops you and refuses to pay... Since you're small you have no way "fight back"
- You then decide it's not worth it paying out tens of thousands out of your own pocket
- You do runner
You can leverage that without starting a network... Why not start running your own CPA offers out in those mailers?
You'll make more and have less of a headache
First even if i don't take it a step further the replies and PMs with knowledge especially from paperdonut is what makes this forum great.
It appears that my best option is to find an established CPA network and see if i can buy in to learn the ropes... so anyone looking for that let me know!
let's keep this discussion going
I think if i can find a team that deliver on their advertised skills (everyone i have found so far has oversold and underwhelmed) we could put some great products together..... so also on that note if you have a skill you can really do whether it is design, coding, mobile, seo etc. PM me i'd like to see if we can put together a mini super team from the members who have some free time and aren't worried about making $5 in the next 3 minutes to fill up their gas tank.
justin
It appears that my best option is to find an established CPA network and see if i can buy in to learn the ropes... so anyone looking for that let me know!
let's keep this discussion going
I think if i can find a team that deliver on their advertised skills (everyone i have found so far has oversold and underwhelmed) we could put some great products together..... so also on that note if you have a skill you can really do whether it is design, coding, mobile, seo etc. PM me i'd like to see if we can put together a mini super team from the members who have some free time and aren't worried about making $5 in the next 3 minutes to fill up their gas tank.
justin
rowebil
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A lot of work is required. Especially if you want to have direct offers with advertisers and not be like any other HasOffers based network, that uses other networks offers. Not every network but some of them. I think you should research more. I was fairly successful with getting advertisers and good prices, but I didn't have the money for the platform.
So you're telling him to not even try his idea that may turn out great, just because it can be difficult? If that was the case, we wouldn't have anything. Any computers, Internet or anything. The greatest people in the world started with absolutely nothing.
He can start on a smaller package on HasOffers. A custom platform will cost like $10,000. Maybe even more!
Why miss out on something great just because it will be hard at the same time.
You are right. IT's a lot of work, but he will realize that if he tries it. Maybe he can take the pain and tremendous amount of work
So you're telling him to not even try his idea that may turn out great, just because it can be difficult? If that was the case, we wouldn't have anything. Any computers, Internet or anything. The greatest people in the world started with absolutely nothing.
He can start on a smaller package on HasOffers. A custom platform will cost like $10,000. Maybe even more!
Why miss out on something great just because it will be hard at the same time.
You are right. IT's a lot of work, but he will realize that if he tries it. Maybe he can take the pain and tremendous amount of work
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You can leverage that without starting a network... Why not start running your own CPA offers out in those mailers?
You'll make more and have less of a headache
on this note i would love to find some offer with dial in payouts..... i've tried some CPA offers but mailer to web is more difficult than mailer to phone
You'll make more and have less of a headache
on this note i would love to find some offer with dial in payouts..... i've tried some CPA offers but mailer to web is more difficult than mailer to phone
oxonbeef
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No I saying think about what you are getting into before you get into it.A lot of work is required. Especially if you want to have direct offers with advertisers and not be like any other HasOffers based network, that uses other networks offers. Not every network but some of them. I think you should research more. I was fairly successful with getting advertisers and good prices, but I didn't have the money for the platform.
So you're telling him to not even try his idea that may turn out great, just because it can be difficult? If that was the case, we wouldn't have anything. Any computers, Internet or anything. The greatest people in the world started with absolutely nothing.
He can start on a smaller package on HasOffers. A custom platform will cost like $10,000. Maybe even more!
Why miss out on something great just because it will be hard at the same time.
You are right. IT's a lot of work, but he will realize that if he tries it. Maybe he can take the pain and tremendous amount of work
It's not a profit from day one business.
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