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How do I prevent expired domains from dropping in age?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by waltersweb, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. waltersweb

    waltersweb Registered Member

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    Hi guys,

    I am looking to register some expired domains for building a pbn.
    However, I notice that once I register them, they show a domain age of 0 months instead of their previous 5 years age for example.

    Is there a way to prevent this? something I have to consider? Like only register them if they have droped in the last x hours or so?

    Thanks, any tipps would be appreciated!
     
  2. danparks

    danparks Junior Member

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    Once a domain is expired to the point where it's available for purchase by anyone, it's age is reset to 0. That's the way it goes.

    If you want to buy a domain with age, you need to buy it from the current owner, or buy it in auction before it's dropped.


     
  3. MisterF

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    Don't just buy based on the age of a domain, check the other metrics, RDs, PA, DA etc too.
     
  4. waltersweb

    waltersweb Registered Member

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    so the value of an (truely) expired domain mainly lies in their backlink profile more than their age?
     
  5. AryabhattZero

    AryabhattZero Power Member

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    Expired domain's age drop to 0 when they are "expired".

    You can't stop that from happening.
     
  6. danparks

    danparks Junior Member

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    Yes.


     
  7. naskootbg

    naskootbg Power Member

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    Change the whois site you are using!
    The age of the domain is still 5 years (in this case) and this still have huge SEO impact!
    If you can get the same host and IP as previous owner had, it will be even better.

    Domain's age is very important and in case You are not sure what you write ^ better don't do it!
     
  8. danparks

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    You are wrong about that. The age is 0 on an expired domain.


     
  9. Nargil

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    Ok so here we go again.

    Age of the domain does not matter fuckall when it comes to SEO. Not even a little bit. I have no idea who started sharing this stuff a billion years ago, but it's one of the biggest misconceptions in SEO nowadays.

    It's the age of content that matters, meaning, how long it has been in index. Some expired domains that you buy will still be partially indexed and the age of the content will be retained, however, this is just a small minority of the domains, even if you are buying from auctions. If you want to preserve the age, then you have to buy live sites. Not even recreation of the previous content will help, if it's already out of the index.
     
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  10. fasttrak

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    Thanks @Nargil - My understanding was as others stated above but it was purely based on what I had seen in many posts. This makes much more sense, thanks for clarifying.
     
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  11. naskootbg

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    I remember when the good old g00gle boy post video, that domain's age is not important SEO factor, but the quality content is. He also says that backlinks have not SEO impact, but the quality of the content have.

    Ofcource domain's age have SEO impact! Don't know for you, but I did tests.
    1. The aged domains are already in the databases of 1000s sites.
    2. If you transfer domain and change your name/company profile and change the IP, it will not affect on the age!
    3. My tests showed, that g00gle bots moves over the site much more regular on aged domain! This is not related to SEO?
    You can manipulate the age of new domain with 301 redirect transferring the age on it, but you can't manipulate the age of the aged domain! You can manipulate moz and majestic metrics in many ways.

    See in g00gle "black and white tv" have 6 580 000 000 results. How many of these posts ranked in top10 are over 20+ years old, becasue I'm sure there have older alive content? Most of the posts are from 2015, but most of the domains ranked there are aged. Maybe this is not good example and maybe conten't age have very little to no impact.
     
  12. sultanate

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    There is no way you can preserve domain age ones its expired but that does not mean its no good. So long as it has good quality referring domains, it would be juicy enough.
     
  13. Nargil

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    Wrong and wrong and wrong again. It has nothing to do with age, but the backlink profile of the website that's already in place. You are working with the presumption, that age = backlink profile. No. Age is just an age. And all the benefits you mentioned are because of the backlinks, not because of the age. Do not mislead people. Do some reading on what "expired domains", "domain age", "content age" and "backlink profile" are and use correct terms.

    And I can already see the amazing backlink of the domain that is in the "databases of 1000s of sites", unless you paid a few thousand bucks for it.

    Ok, so I can transfer age by 301 redirect? What the fuck? :) And by what you are saying, I can manipulate the age of the new domain but not of the aged domain? So I can do "0+5=5", but I can't do "5+5=10"? Not only what you are claiming is total nonsense, but your argumentation by itself has so many holes, that it feels like cheese.
     
  14. rivered

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    Never heard that one before. Do you have proof?


    So if you 301 an aged domain to a less aged domain it won't work, but it will work for a new domain?

    How new does the domain have to be? Older than 1 day and it won't work? :confused:
     
  15. jb2302

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    Everything matters, each point has its own value, in simple words you just want your domain name to be showd up in the list, it is a simple thing,.. not simple as that,
    Content matter along with seo and domain age.
    New domain have a unique content perform good in seo, but some times an old domain in your niche.. can out perform the niche without having a soo good seo or pbn, but that is expectional,

    In. General google is trying to just show relevant content to the user, who it self is the product.

    So i prefer to keep things logical, that make sense.
    Some time a well domain in your niche can b gold mine, depends on how the previous owner has used it, as the user never forgot how the site have been.

    Think about google back list a site.. because it was spammy, now 10,000 people were spamed, and they have negative for your website, so in that case , that aged domain is poison, but some hard working guy who could not continue his work, and thousands of people have good feeling about that, and google also give it a good view, then you should not worry that new domain age is showing 0, google is bad ass, and he never delete any of data, so if the things exist. It will matter, it gonna make a point some where.
    Peace guys.
     
  16. Nargil

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    Sure buddy.
     
  17. naskootbg

    naskootbg Power Member

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    I mean when old domain is 301 redirected to new, than the new domain get its age. If new domain 301ed to old the old will hold the age.

    No, that age != backlink profile and I'm not supid fakar. It is fact that g00gle crawl aged domains more regular even they are on new registar with new registrant and with new IP and even this aged domains HAVE NOT BACKLINKS IN INDEX.

    And yes, when old domain is redirected to new, the tools start showing the age of the old to the new - not sure how g00gle getting this, but as webmasters tools explains 301 is best practice to move from one domain to other without loosing the juice.

    Wrong Wrong Wrong?
    @Nargil
    I explained why I'm right and you say nothing, but blank words. I have learned all high maths and can tell you that -> and + are absolute different math simbols.
    If 100kg fat ass sits on ant, the ant will be hidden!
    Now you can tell me that:
    1 big ass + 1 ant = 2
    or
    1 big ass + 1 ant = 1 bigg ass
    lol
     
  18. Nargil

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    You said what I quoted above.

    And the math example that I have wrote there was referring to redirecting old domain to another old domain, which you said is not possible in the quote above. So to translate it, one big ass sits on another big ass.

    So besides faster crawl rate, which does not even mean faster indexation rate, what else of a benefit is there?

    If you take expired domain with first registration 15 years ago without ANY backlink ever built to it and a freshly never before registered domain, the SEO results will be completely the same.

    And no buddy. You have explained why you think is right. There's huge difference there. And if you believe I said "nothing", then maybe you should also do some study on learning besides maths.
     
  19. naskootbg

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    What I mean is if ant sit on big ass, the big ass will not be hidden and nothing related to sum.

    I bet the older domain will get ranked faster than the newer even on the end they will be on the same position (excluding all other factors). If the faster ranking is nothing related to SEO than I will agree with you. So maybe we covered something even out of thread's question.
     
  20. bignose

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    And why do you want this?

    I didnt read all the replies above, but i'm sure they all tell you the domain age is a nonsense. Who cares if it shows 0 or 10, if you know it's 10 and the site was there for 10 years?