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How do I beat my competitors? They are using 301 redirect (no backlinks)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mrdonman, Nov 1, 2013.

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  1. mrdonman

    mrdonman Regular Member

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    Hi,
    Recently I just ranked my site in under 2 months for bunch of keywords with good quality linkbuilding. My keywords are diversified for bunch of keywords. I was ranking #1 & #2 for bunch of keywords. Suddenly 1 Site overtakes me for all my keywords that was registered less than 1 week old and I beat him. I think the same guy used another brand new domain to beat me for all my keywords with another 2 week domain with no backlinks and no social shares. The sites only have 1 link 301 to the new site. They have been holding up for 1 & half week so far. I have been constantly linkbuilding with High PR and good quality links. How long do you think their sites will stay up or will I have to work to overtake the sites.
    Any suggestions guys.
     
  2. Bruut

    Bruut Regular Member

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    Can you pm me the site?(if not i understand 100%)

    I once tried the 301 spam method, and the site was up for like 1 week and then it disappeared from serps.
    So my guess is the site should be removed any moment.

    I don't have many experience with this, just trying to help :)
     
  3. MadStacks

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    They are obviously buying links with more link juice or their on site SEO is better. Add some fresh unique content to your
    website and check out linking to private blog networks.
     
  4. HomensdaLuta

    HomensdaLuta Junior Member

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    did you check the site redirecting to the new domain to see age and how many backlinks etc?
     
  5. mrdonman

    mrdonman Regular Member

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    The 301 sites were in the same niche and they are companies that weren't ranking obviously. Now they share just redirecting the domains to the new ones. The 301 sites were registered 1 year ago.they both average links of around 1000 backlinks
     
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    HomensdaLuta Junior Member

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    i think like was said already you should wait it out and let them start losing rankings. Keep doing your thing.
     
  7. kasher9

    kasher9 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    301 redirects don't necessarily always get caught. If you really want to beat them, send really shitty links down their 301s, thatll ruin them for sure. Play dirty when your competition plays dirty. Spam the 301s with viagra blog comments.
     
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    what a bullshit thing to say.

    how are his competitors playing dirty? because they beat him? NO that is not playing dirty.

    The nature of the game will always be like that. You suck it up, you either try to outrank them or you move on to a new niche.

    What IS dirty is that you would bring down a competitor just because their methods beat yours. If there was ever one rule in blackhatting and decency you just broke it.
     
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  9. kasher9

    kasher9 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    One rule of business my friend: "Always have the upper hand against your competitors". Theyre ranking quick with 301s, you destroy them. This isnt whitehat pussy world, its BLACKHATworld.

     
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  10. MafiaBoss

    MafiaBoss Elite Member

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    Use the Same techniques and tools they are using but against them.
     
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    Why are you feeling so bad ? Can you please stop showing that you are so good person ? and @ OP Just take those all redirects in notepad keep pinging them to Google and spam them with Viagra sex backlinks.
     
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    using 301 depends upon niche , i have seen many sites ranking in good niches with 301 for 6months+ .

    some time sites get fucked in 1 day.

    depends upon niche . he made a new site and ranked it within 1 week , if your niche is profitable then do same.
    can you send me link to his new site ? i may be able to tell you the way to out rank it.

    -=-
     
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    Get some authority 301s OP. Don't listen to people that openly talks about negative seo and finds it a cool thing to do, only noobs does that.
     
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    yes we need to help each other with these type good opinions =))))

    [​IMG]

     
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    301's are blackhat end off. If you're an idiot who believes business is all la da di da and no one plays dirty to get to the top, then that's your choice, clearly you don't know anything about business. Read what bill gates did, steve jobs did asshole. And in any case, is your post of any help to the OP? Go learn a bit about the REAL business world and you'll know what the definition of dirty is.
    You're probably more annoyed that someone's actually done this to you and they got away with it

     
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    Try out some SEO services on the market place, look under link building.
     
  17. legendking

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    I guess the question reads "How do i beat my competitor" not "how do i kill my competitor's site" please whatever the f**k you're doing, remember that Karma's a f**king bitch. . if they're all using 301, then try it out too. Blackhatworld is not about killing other people's business. This is not a mafia world
     
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    Get a High PR Porn Website Domain redirect it to their website.
     
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    Please go back to warrior forum and stay there

    Thank you


     
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  20. Tony Barns

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    Time to play dirty my friend!