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How did they get so many backlinks?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ButcherPete, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. ButcherPete

    ButcherPete Regular Member

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    I have one website right now. I submitted it to web directories, social bookmarking sites, and I've been building high quality, handmade Web 2.0 sites that link to it and blasting them with bulk backlink packages from Fiverr. Ahrefs is showing that I have 150-something backlinks right now.

    But I'm researching some new keywords and checking out how many backlinks the competition has, and I keep seeing sites with 20,000+ backlinks according to Ahrefs. This may be a dumb question, but how do they do that? Surely, they're not making them all by hand, are they? I can tell by the keywords that they are actively doing SEO on this site; it is not natural linking. I just don't understand how it is possible to get so many backlinks. It's certainly not possible with my current method.

    - Are they blasting it with xRuber or Scrapebox? Is it OK to do that after you have so many backlinks already made?

    - Do they just spend a shitload of money paying other people to work around the clock building Web 2.0 properties?
     
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    sashablack Elite Member

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    What type of back-links are they? text? anchor links? banner links? it all depends!
     
  3. Meloman

    Meloman Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well first thing I can guarantee you is that they do not use fiverr gigs for backlinks. Second thing is that 20,000 backlinks is easy to get with GSA, Xrumer, and a few seo services.

    Also, there is no way that they build them manually, and i highly doubt that they pay people to manually build 20,000 backlinks.
     
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    if it counts then surely its gonna be good links. mostly biggies will have their own in house seo team. lets say hiring 5 guys would do the job.. each guy makes 100 links per day. 5 guys, 500 links per day and if only 100 gets indexed out of 500, then it wont take much time to get 20k good links..
     
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    Did you check the # of referring domains and if the links were site-wide?

    I know site-wide links are as counted 1 link/page, hence it can appear as hundreds or even thousands.
     
  6. ButcherPete

    ButcherPete Regular Member

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    It was my understanding that any automated backlinks straight to the money site are a bad idea... Is it OK to do under certain circumstances? (and, which ones?)

    Thanks for the tip.
     
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    Everything depends...you said you did your links manual, but it's a point of view ;)
    Some guy using xrumer could say he manually press 'spam' button :)

    About your last question, colleague Butcher :)
    You can use automated backlinks but using your mind, quality over quantity...

    Good luck!
     
  8. StirlingMedia

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    Who cares about how many backlinks there are? What is far more important is the quality of those links.

    I rank sites by using less than 10 backlinks from my PBN because they are all high authority, high PR (not important) and high trust.
     
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    It's possible that they're paying someone for their links or they're building links by blasting like tier 2 or tier 3 with ScrapeBox and Xrumer. Blasting links at sites usually has massive negative link velocity so it is not recommended. Forget about the competitor's site and focus on your site by establishing more trust. Remember, having few quality links is better than having many low quality ones. Keep building links to maintain link velocity.
     
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    There is no practical deifference between automated links and manual links.

    While it's not normally the case...
    You can make fantastic links with automation
    Likewise can make shit links manually

    You can get penalized with Penguin 2.1 for manual linking. Doing it by hand is just "slower"... a LOT slower and can take hundreds of hours rather than maybe 10 - and if you do it right - that's the only difference there is.

    In the case of these sites that you've found the main 3 things to look for are...

    Authority - Is it an established authority in a field? Are the sites representing major companies, governments, other big establishments and offering resources that can't legitimately be read/dopwnloaded or watched elsewhere?
    If so they will get a lot of backlinks

    Age - Backlinks accrue over time. A 10 year old site with have a lot more links than a 3 month old one.

    Size - A site with hundreds of real viable URL (not empty pages, tag pages or whatever) will likely get more backlinks if the quality on those pages is half decent

    So if the sites you are looking at are new, thin and on topics that no-one could seriously give a fig about - then 20,000 links is a swizz and Google will know it
    But judging how linke were made?
    Google never know how links are made unless the link maker leaves obvious footprints. 1000's in a day, the same content, the same platform or anchor text whatever.

    Just because some people use tools like idiots (some? I should say most..) there is no reason to copy them :)
    I'm certainly not saying spam. In most cases Link "blasts" are for numb nuts and have become an epic fail. But throwing away your tools isn't the solution. Using them properly is.

    Doing things manually isn't better or safer. It's just slower

    Scritty
     
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    The whole point of automated tools was getting a lot done which would be seen as manual work by the serps. Over the years, they just get better at deciphering the good from the bad.

    Tools, if used right, will have the same effect as doing things manually, but you need two things:
    - a good tool (one that won't post broken HTML code on a wiki where it's not applicable even)
    - the perfect settings for that tool
     
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    You can get a huge number of backlinks from blasting forum profiles and blog comments. But at the end of the day, quality outweighs quantity.
     
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    Large companies have their own offices with SEO experts in them or they outsource it to virtual assistance.
    Could be they are buying these links.