How can you pass AI detection tools?

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splishsplash said:
Not with the current generation of tools and definitely not a chatgpt article. Not even close
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I really appreciate your expert answer. I find this very interesting. I was wondering what an AI lacks to write really good texts. I came to the conclusion that it lacks the meta level in communication. My favorite author explained this very well in a concept. We humans communicate on three levels: strategy, emotion, meta. Strategy is grammar, spelling, form, etc. Emotion is something that humans can relate to. But the meta level is something that humans know but don't say.

I'll give an example. In some religions, you have to take your shoes off before entering a house. I heard that this is not common in the US.

So when a human author writes an article about a religious person, he has all the meta information about his/her religion.

But when an AI has to write the same article, that meta information has to be included in the prompt.
 
Maybe another example what I mean with meta layer (level). To navigate a container ship from A to B, you have to have domain knowledge. The devil is in the details. To get an desired result, the prompt would be equivalent to the human solution.
 
ItsAllTheWayUp said:
I really appreciate your expert answer. I find this very interesting. I was wondering what an AI lacks to write really good texts. I came to the conclusion that it lacks the meta level in communication. My favorite author explained this very well in a concept. We humans communicate on three levels: strategy, emotion, meta. Strategy is grammar, spelling, form, etc. Emotion is something that humans can relate to. But the meta level is something that humans know but don't say.

I'll give an example. In some religions, you have to take your shoes off before entering a house. I heard that this is not common in the US.

So when a human author writes an article about a religious person, he has all the meta information about his/her religion.

But when an AI has to write the same article, that meta information has to be included in the prompt.
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AI can write above human level, but not with the current tools that are basically just prompting chatgpt to write a full article, or write blog sections.

A custom writer that contains 15-20 fine-tuned models that actually researches the topic, determines what to write about, what topics to cover, what the user intent is and looks up information to fact check is a totally different story.

There are no public tools I'm aware of that do this.


An AI can have that 'meta' information too.

Asking chatgpt "Create an outline for an article about the history of SEO", then asking it to write each section, section by section is equivalent to a human just opening up word and typing off the top of their head without thought/research/analysis.

The AI I describe above is like a human who does 15-20 different things to determine the content of the article, the topics, the questions to answer, the user intent, the important facts etc
 
This is what creates useless and low-quality content, which is repeated time after time, from site to site. it even became unpleasant that a once very demanded profession is used by some lazy people
 
splishsplash said:
"Oh, affiliate programs are mostly crap, so I'll just start a business directly scamming people"
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Every time you get a sale there you directly scam people, same thing, I don't understand how you can't see that. Not speaking about you specifically, I dont know if you worked with these niches ever or not, but lots of people did and still are. The best you could do is "shady" and it is cause you know they are en mass in this community. So it is not frowned upon at all but suddenly there is a scam that interferes with your scope of work and it is a big deal? Just not fair and honest. Someone is being scammed looking to get laid. Your are being scammed looking to get written content.

And of course both is not okay and me personally I'm not doing any of that. But I know life is not fair and this is blackhat forum. If I wanted to read spreadsheets of moral judgement I would join christian community.

splishsplash said:
Take my advice if you want to succeed.
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Never scam people in the industry. Scamming common people is fine although it is a bit "shady". Personally I think both are not fine. But thank you for your advice.
 
mortrainey said:
Every time you get a sale there you directly scam people, same thing, I don't understand how you can't see that. Not speaking about you specifically, I dont know if you worked with these niches ever or not, but lots of people did and still are. The best you could do is "shady" and it is cause you know they are en mass in this community. So it is not frowned upon at all but suddenly there is a scam that interferes with your scope of work and it is a big deal? Just not fair and honest. Someone is being scammed looking to get laid. Your are being scammed looking to get written content.

And of course both is not okay and me personally I'm not doing any of that. But I know life is not fair and this is blackhat forum. If I wanted to read spreadsheets of moral judgement I would join christian community.



Never scam people in the industry. Scamming common people is fine although it is a bit "shady". Personally I think both are not fine. But thank you for your advice.
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Your logic is WAY off here.

I will attempt to make you see.

Your logic is essentially like saying(And I'm taking it to exremes) :-

"I'm teaching people marketing and copywriting, and it's likely that at least some of the people I am teaching are going to scam people. Therefore, I may as well just scam people myself."

Affiliate marketing as a whole is not a 100% scam.

In the past, there were really shady credit card trial offers that deceived people and made money by rebilling them as long as possible. Not everyone promoted those, and those that did were enamored by the easy money, so they put their morals aside.

Email submits.. You aren't scamming people here. Yes, maybe someone will get on a bad list and be scammed. But this is like the extreme example above.

But.. I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make with me. You said you don't think it's fine to scam anyone. Are you implying I do? Are you implying I think it's not ok to scam people here, but ok to scam "common people"? Are you implying I have double standards because I don't go on a rant about shady dating offers?

I don't scam anyone. Certainly not poor/needy people.

The difference is, as I said above, affiliate marketing is not a 100% scam, so we don't go attacking everyone who's doing affiliate marketing.

If someone came here and asked for advice on how to create a scam dating site/offer, it would get backlash.

Or are you saying that just because there are scams in affiliate marketing and it's discussed here, that we should allow all forms of scamming? It's back to that faulty logic above.

The bigger question is why are you so personally upset at me because I'm against someone advertising human written articles, but selling AI written articles?
 
Well put yourself in your client shoes
would you like to pay 15$ for an AI article that dont bring you any value ?
If someone would pay me 15$ per an article then i would put the effort and write original content
Many people in the world work hard jobs per 15 $ per day working 8 hours
Dont forget karma exist and it will bring you back what you give to people sooner or later
 
splishsplash said:
If someone came here and asked for advice on how to create a scam dating site/offer, it would get backlash.
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That would be insane to see as there are so many established threads advertising exactly this in the "Affiliate programs - CPA networks" section. Anything there saying "dating smartlink" would be a dating scam, wouldn't you agree? Don't wanna name any names, anyone can just look for themselves there. Undertsable that you don't know this if you haven't touched that niche at all.

splishsplash said:
The bigger question is why are you so personally upset at me because I'm against someone advertising human written articles, but selling AI written articles?
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Anything about double standarts upsets me but I can understand better now where you coming from and many of your points are actually legit, thanks for clearing. Maybe I came out too strong too.
 
Selling AI content as completely original isn't a good look. Clients expect real work, and AI text needs editing to avoid issues. Be upfront - mention you use AI for drafts, but you edit and check everything for quality and originality. Focus on the value you bring - turning AI output into great content. Your rates might need adjusting since you're using AI. Honesty and quality are key!
 
AlexaDame said:
Hello

If I were to sell articles and copywriting services on UPWORK, But 90% of the text is done by AI, how can I sell it as original content? I say on my profile that it is 100% Original Content and copy-scape proof. But If someone asks me if it is AI-generated, I`m gonna say no. I won`t charge too much. I was thinking about 10-15$ an hour for a 500-word article. But how can I get my article to pass AI detection tools and make it happen? How can I bypass that and sell my services?
Thank you
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It's essential to be transparent about the use of AI in generating content when selling articles and copywriting services on platforms like Upwork. While AI can assist in creating drafts, your value lies in refining, customizing, and adding unique insights to ensure the final product meets client expectations. Emphasize your role in editing, enhancing readability, and ensuring the content aligns with client requirements and industry standards. Position yourself as a skilled editor and content strategist who uses AI as a tool rather than the sole creator, offering personalized, high-quality content that reflects your expertise and client needs. This approach not only enhances trust but also sets realistic expectations, ensuring clients receive genuinely original and valuable content.
 
flackz said:
What for? Did you read the thread title? The OP asks "How do you pass AI detection tools?" Humanizing will not help you pass the AI detection tools. RTFM please.
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Really? What helps it pass AI detection tools?
 
splishsplash said:
Not with the current generation of tools and definitely not a chatgpt article. Not even close
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Exactly. 90% of copywriters produce extremely low quality text that can't even be compared to GPT-4o or Claude 3.5. That's why human writers are getting fired left and right...
 
I think using very few words, like maximum 6 helps detecting a AI bot, also a more easier approach to the language instead of hard words
 
brother now days there are so many tools available which can detect ai generated article.
if your buyer has good knowledge then your idea wont work.
 
Tim_Kanya said:
brother now days there are so many tools available which can detect ai generated article.
if your buyer has good knowledge then your idea wont work.
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you are missing the point. He is selling to the suckers without knowledge. The sentiment of this thread is that its unethical
 
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