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how can i keep my IG accounts safe?

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by jdsm20, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. jdsm20

    jdsm20 Regular Member

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    hello everyone!

    ive recently started a journey. here: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/my-instagram-journey-to-50-a-day.892222/

    in short, my plan is exactly as crygenesis's method of spamming..

    progress so far:
    • brought 10 domains
    • brought unlimited hosting
    • brought IG edition of massplanner
    • made 10 pre-landers
    • added all pre-landers to my domains and shortened links to bit.ly
    i havent yet brought proxies or accounts as i want to shop around for the best
    --probably going with buyproxies.org unless anyone can suggest better?--

    my fear is the phone verification.. or more to the point, getting banned.
    i dont want to have to keep buying 10 accounts everyday.

    so it appears the PV stage is where the majority of peoples accounts get banned so my question is, whats the best way to get around this?

    obviously people are keeping accounts safe so there is a way

    regards, Jordan :)
     
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    Mate, thats the whole IG game.
     
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    jdsm20 Regular Member

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    i get that but people are keeping their accounts safe, so it is doable.

    also im expecting (especially at the start) to have a few bans but there must be the safest route?

    ive read to use textnow, textplus or use phyical sims.
     
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    florin22xxl Regular Member

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    Anything physical is preffered over something "fake".Create accounts on phone with real ip rather than programs with proxies.Use real sims instead of fake numbers(wich 1000 other people use).Don't use the same link in more than 3 accounts.Those started tips could help the most in the long run.
     
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    thanks! im having a look around now for some free sims. you say create accounts with a real IP but surely that would raise flags as all the accounts would be under the same IP and would all get mass banned?
     
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    If you create them with your carrier internet,reconnect each time and you get new IP.You can only make so much accounts/device,after that you will need a new device.(family,friends).I'm not saying is easy,but its one way to make your accounts look more legit.I have many accounts created like that,10 months later 0 bans.
     
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    so just to be clear, make X amount on my IP (like they were personal accounts) then make X amount in my friends/family's house with they IP?
     
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    No....there is a limit to how many accounts you can make per phone.After you reach that limit it will say an account was already registered using that device and you need a new phone to create more accounts.
    For the IP part its best not to use the same ip for many accounts,it can leave trails.Create max 3 accounts/IP.
     
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    well ive already made 3 accounts on my phone.. 3 random niche accounts i was trying out and thanks for the tips ill look into it all now :)

    edit: im planning to add them to massplanner and use 1 proxy per account so by adding a proxy to each account would surely raise a flag due to the strange IP change?
     
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    If you have a dynamic IP address then it will change often so it is not uncommon for your IP address to change.

    I don't think you will have an issue with using the proxy.


    The point in using a proxy is to avoid using an IP address that has been banned and to prevent having too many accounts associated to a single IP address.
     
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    there is a pattern that ig has to ban accounts. one thing you should realize is that accs are getting flagged by an algo or bot so there is obviously a way to avoid that flag. you can look at scenarios across the board on this forum of people having their accs banned. tons of people have used the most safest set up possible: 1 proxy per acc, real sims, unique bios, unique URLs, etc. and they still get their accounts mass banned. what does that tell you?

    well personally i believe that proxys aren't necessary and aren't the reason. i also think that it doesnt matter if you use virtual or real numbers. unique bios, urls, and pics obviously matter. once you look at all the cases/journeys of people doing instagram and see what they're doing, you realize that 99% of them run into bans/PVA waves. there is some speculation as to why this happens, but obviously they're all doing the same procedure if they're running into bans. my assumption is that the ones with 100+ alive accs don't post on the forums and keep to themselves
     
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    got ya, thanks for your reply! :)
     
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    Yup that's the key, keep ur secrets with yourself. Textnow and text plus are gone now, so all that is left is private knowledge
     
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    real sims card are the only way!
     
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    this is actually not true. look around you, people are using real sims and 1 proxy per acc and are still getting banned. it's not the sims, it's not the proxies. it's actually something else
     
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    diffirent people experiened diffirent situations. The only way is to testing for yourself for what will work and what not. For me, after using only sim cards. I never face a mass ban ever again. For a month after using sim card, no more acc get ban. PV is now very easy, my grandmother can do it without problems !
     
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    i have tested it actually. i made a case study testing 3 types of accs against each other. i recorded my progress in note/excel files. after 1-2 weeks i have deduced that there is absolutely no difference between using a virtual and real number
     
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    Well I've been thinking of how IG can link my accounts together and I literally cannot think of a way. IPs will be different, unique bio, pic name Etc, all accounts will have different domains, web 2.0s and will be verified with different sims (found some cheap sims online so Brought quite a few today)

    The only things that ties the accounts together is the hosting IP but instagram bots don't get that far due to my prelander.. Unless they somehow find out my weebly account then my personal IP?

    I know that you know how to keeps accounts alive and get past phone verification and understand why you'd keep that to yourself but could you at least let me know if I'm close to the problem?

    Thanks, Jordan.
     
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    i actually don't know how to keep accs 100% alive, i had a few hit 2 days ago. IG can still track how many accs you are running from your computer because they have your computer's device ID and MAC address. every request you make to ig such as like/follow/comment/edit profile all send data/information to ig. there is definitely a way for ig to use this information and detect what computer/device is using what accs at any given time. this is even if you have different IPs, usernames, pics, bio, etc per account.

    does that mean you can't run more than 10 accs on your computer/vps without getting banned? well no it doesn't because there are several people running 100+ ig accs from 1 computer/on their vps so it is possible. the difference is they are using their accs in a way that does not trigger them to become flagged. once this flag happens, ig now has a reason to annhilate all accs that are linked to your computer.

    when you start botting like this you need to be very keen on what is happening on the backend if you want to survive. even software like massplanner and FL may not be the best because you have absolutely no idea what is happening to your accs once you press that start button. i've talked with high earners who run 1k+ accs and they're mostly using their own software.

    also, what you learn for the most part isn't set in stone. IG updates their API something like every 3 days. so their algo is constantly changing, constantly being tweaked. there's a reason why it was possible to add 10-20 accs per day 6 months ago, and today if you were to do that you are hit with a mass PVA and instant ban. wanna know how to overcome this mass PVA? for starters, look at all the IG journeys and read what they are doing, if there accs end up getting mass pva'd then do something different from them. also record your progress so you can clearly see when you get hit with a mass PVA
     
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    But if I add a proxy to each account then how is that account linked to my computer IP in any way? You've said yourself it isn't the proxies and not the sim/virtual sim.. Judging by your thread and what I'm replying to my guess is ill have to make my own Bot. So the problem is the Bot?