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How are Mac computers compared to Linux / Windows?

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  1. zero-day

    zero-day Regular Member

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    I know all about the specs and technical what-not with computers, but I was wondering how is the general over-all performance of them? Each computer manufacturer could have the same parts, but different performance of the over-all machine.

    I don't play games on computers. The only things I do are, work on my business, program, and do general IM things.

    What I was thinking was this.
    Get a Mac computer and get a virtual machine of Windows to run applications that NEED windows in order to run.

    Just I've never used a mac computer, the only Apple products I've used where IPod's.

    The only thing I NEED from a Mac computer is dual(2)/Tri(3) monitor support. Sometimes referred to as "SLI Support".


    I'm asking here because well, let's face it, everyone here is on some sort of computer or another whether it be Windows, Linux, or Mac, and I just want to get the most bang for my buck.
     
  2. Xyz01

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    I would never buy a Mac. I'm even starting to develop iOS applications and run that off a VM (perfectly).

    I would never consider buying a Mac, it's way too overpriced and could buy so much more for that price.

    I just run Windows on my main gaming machine, and run Linux on almost every other PC I own.

    But at the end of the day, choose the PC that makes you happy and more productive.
     
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  3. poshtiger

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    The apple hardware is the best around - look at the build quality of say an macbook compared to any other laptop... they're stunning.

    I have a macbook pro, and have installed windows 7 ultimate on it.

    There are other options like reFit which let you dual boot the operating systems but if you're used to Windows then you'll find osx a pain in the arse.
     
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  4. zero-day

    zero-day Regular Member

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    I'm looking to purchase a Desktop.

    The way companies build Laptops compared to Desktops is completely different.

    Some companies Desktops royally kick ass, but their laptops could barely run AIM, and vise versa.

    I'm just looking to get a general over-all 1st hand experience without all the "fluff" of going to the store and asking someone because, as with everything, they will all tell you what their selling is the absolute best thing since sliced bread. Lol.
     
  5. DiMXx

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    poshtiger has the right idea. get best of both worlds
     
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  6. Danny1111

    Danny1111 Elite Member

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    if you want best bang for the buck you gotta build it yourself.

    SSD drives are the latest things - but they add to the price pretty quick.


    Maybe the best strategy would be :

    + Ipad 2 with Splashtop remote access - so you can access your Home Pc's and Remote desktops with tools... from where-ever you are without the bulk.

    + a VPS to run all your tools from

    + a new windows based home PC - take a look at some of the custom builders - rather than the known brands...... or build yourself.


    you go add a few things to a mac mini its $2000 - you go add a few things to an Imac its $4000 (processory/memory/SSD)

    where if you stick with windows and a custom build your going to get a real nice PC for that...
     
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  7. SyZygy

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    My advice?

    Get one 21" iMac for around 1.500$ so you can see what it is, how it works and how cool it looks like. You can run lot's of software on it, watch movies, listen to music, surf on the internet.

    Get one PC that has a core i7 2600 sandy bridge, together with some proper graphics card and 8gb RAM for around 1000$.

    After you make that purchase then you can use it in two ways. Use your iMac as a desktop and enjoy the benefits of Mac computers, and when you need some rare power for games, IM tools or something similar, then just plug the PC to the iMac and the iMac will be your monitor (and a damn good one).

    This is my current setup:
    [​IMG]

    And the next one is probably a 27" iMac and a PC, to make a combination that I mentioned above.
     
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  8. mattcash

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    Macs are based on BSD, which is a type of Unix, just like Linux. If you're looking to be a gamer, there are more offerings on windows. Now that Mac's are based on intel, you can run windows in a virtual machine and really get the best of both worlds.

    I personally prefer linux for server type work, and mac/windows are interchangable for normal productivity type work.
     
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    Your desk looks like my desk i have the exact same set up regarding Mac
     
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  10. zero-day

    zero-day Regular Member

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    Don't really use tools. The only tools I use are tools I create to do things that are just repetitive that I can automate. I know how to build a computer, but I'd rather just buy one because I don't have the time to build it and wait for everything and do all the b/s of it. I over-worked my desktop that I have now and it's general specs are -

    Quad core processor @ 3.2 ghz / core
    8 gb ram
    fan cooled

    The poor thing over heated.
    It's a fairly quick computer that I got about a year ago for $500 brand new. Every computer I find now that doesn't even have 6gb ram, but 4gb or less is about $700+.

    What I was thinking of, is getting I believe it was a Dell XPS or something, on the Dell website, with 24gb of RAM, just so I can do whatever I want, when I want. Put the best of everything in it(that they had to offer) and it came out to I believe around $3,800 or so.
     
  11. zero-day

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    1st off, we have the same chair. So cheers to that lol.

    Where would the best place be to get an iMac?
    Also, that sounds like some good advice, but to play games I just play them on X-Box 360, in a nice soft chair that reclined with a drink and surround sound as compared to hunched over on a computer chair lol.
     
  12. Danny1111

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    well for a souped up windows pc you are going to be paying around
    $3500 but those specs would be well above the Mac stuff

    why for example not look at a custom type place

    www.cyberpowerpc.com

    its more based on gaming - but it is configurable - so you can pick and choose what you want

    also water cooled - as seems like you really are pushing your PC's


    I just want to say I'm not a guru PC guy myself - but I have looked around alot recently so I kind of know the price points for this stuff.

    Let us know what you end up going with

    Good Luck
     
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  13. zero-day

    zero-day Regular Member

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    Personally, in the past few years, I've burned out at least 1 desktop per year, completely killed it.

    I like Mac, but for some reason it just gives me the impression of being all looks and no show.
     
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    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select

    If somebody tells you "don't buy an iMac now, in around 4 months there will be new ones!" then he is probably right, in around 4 months there will be new ones.

    But, I never buy new Apple computers because then it's just like gambling. Each new version of a product has some glitches or bugs that they fix in around 6 months - and that's why I always buy a one generation older iMac, and not the newest ones.

    The best thing about the current ones is that they can be a computer and a monitor in the same time. That's why I like on them the most.

    And not only that, it works, it's stable, and (last but not least) it's a pussy magnet also :p
     
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    That website is fucking badass playa, thanks for that
     
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    You could build the Desktop yourself , Better value for money then plus you get the experience of building one.

    I saved like $300 Building my own computer.

    SSD's are amazing , If you want a quick PC then you should definately get one :)
     
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    If you want a pc running mac,dont huy from apple. Build a pc using a intel cpu and install it yourself.
     
  18. Danny1111

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    Yeah I put the $3500 price out there without explaining it too much

    but that price has Above Average RAM / High End Processor / Good Video Card / SSD / Noise Cancelling / Water Cooled and a few other bits and pieces... so for not doing anything your getting a really nice PC

    well above anything that's not $6-8k from Apple.

    you could obviously buy it all yourself or go for something lower as needed - really this was to try to solve any 1 year breakage the OP was suffering from ..... cheers
     
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    I agree with you.. It could be used that way
     
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    Okay, got my interest there - are you saying you are running a OSX VM?