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How aggressive can you link build?

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by thedigitalhound, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. thedigitalhound

    thedigitalhound Newbie

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    question regarding how aggressive you can be with link building. I have a site that is about 2 1/2 months old. I did an article marketing campaign to start followed bu lite link building and now I am starting to ramp up the link building. I am just not sure how aggressive to build links as I don't want to get my site banned from the big G. I have been trying a few link a day but I suspect this is way to low. Anyone have any suggestions?
     
  2. gooser898

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  3. Redwing

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    The rule of thumb that has always worked for me and some other SEOs that I know is:
    Never exceed a 15% increase rate in any month. The search engines see 15% as a maximum "natural" link growth rate.

    So, if you have 100 back-links now, don't add more than 15 links per month (or one every other day). As your base number increases, recalculate how many you can add using the 0.15 multiplying factor.

    Proper SEO, especially link building, must be a slow steady process. Many folks who get in a hurry and join automated link building programs do themselves more harm than good. A handful of strong links is worth 100 times more than hundreds of junk links.

    It's your website, be very careful who you ask to link to you.
     
  4. keith

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    In my experience, go big or go small. Don't vary it. Most of my clients have simple keywords so I normally go small.

    However, a few clients and with my own sites, it's not uncommon for me to throw 50k+ indexed links at a site.

    they drop for a week or two then come back in the serps usually pretty high.
     
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    flaktrak Power Member

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    If you got ancient domains like me.. some over 10 years old. Link build all you want and as hard as you want!
     
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  6. AquaClean

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    where did you get this 15% number from, did you just pick a number to sound smart? or sound like you now what is going on? If you have the Google algorithm, please send it to me... lol
     
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    yeah same as i thought...15% increase? that wont get you anywhere
     
  8. THECEO

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    I have a 3 yr old domain and I send sometimes 1k links a day to it and its all good. I also have an 8 month old site with 140 pages and I send 1k links a day to it but sprinkle it to all the subpages instead of focusing on the root. Still no issues.
     
  9. keith

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    Okay, I hate it when people like you start stating opinions as fact. Lets get a few things strait.

    #1 I'm not saying you're wrong, it's impossible to prove to disprove any set number for a multitude of reasons.

    #2 That sounds extremely unlikely, actually all hard limits sound unlikely, after all, I'll just take your username, find other forums where you link to your websites and then proceed to blast 2501 links a day to them and watch you get ban hammered. Yeah, it doesn't make sense to be that easy to get morons delisted now does it? After all, if I could, I would. (Well, actually I can, it just takes being a heck of a lot more creative than just blasting links)

    #3 How did you test this?

    #4 Why is some new guy on the forum (hey, I'm not the oldest member here either so do go hating on me for pulling this one) claiming to have the end-all answer to another persons legitimate request for information when NO ONE has the full answer. Even the lead tech at Google couldn't rattle off all the factors of aggressive building without spending a few hires reading the algorithm again.

    #5 You mentioned PR0, how do you suppose we check this, since the public PR data is on a long-term (seems to be 3-6 month updates over the past few years) cache? Yeah, you can't check real time PR, so guess what, it's now IMPOSSIBLE for you to know this algorithm since you can't check it either.


    Yeah, it's late, and blatant mis-information struck a chord.
     
  10. 12Magazine

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    I think you can do 10 to 20 backlinks a day...
     
  11. Redwing

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    I'll tell you where the 15% number came from. A.) I didn't pick it B.) I am not very smart C.) If I had the Google algo, I'd give it to you.

    I have spent a lot of time on the phone with people from very significant SEO companies, listening to their pitch about what they would do for me for $4000 or $5000 a month. Each time we talked about link building rate, it appeared to me to be about 15% per month. I knew how many links I had and divided it into the number of new links they suggested. In talking with 4 different companies, the numbers all came out nearly the same.....15%

    I concluded that it was a good number. I also listened to their stuff about how much testing their companies have done to determine good link parameters.

    My site is 6 years old, with approx. 6580 links. I've used the 15% link building rate for the last 2 1/2 years. My home page is now PR4 and I have 4 of my best keywords on the 1st page of Google.

    ..........works for me.
     
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  12. d4l1t0s

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    I ve experiences 2 scenarios ( with brand new domains ) :
    Scenario one :
    1000 Backlink every week and the site will gradually climb up on the serps
    Scanrio 2:
    link as many as the I can and I m talking big numbers , the site will get sandboxed for 7-10 days then it will appear really far from the first page ( somewhere between page 20-40) and it will sit there for 7-10 days again ...and after that I m on page 1 ( one of the first 5 position usually ) and I keep on submitting and I dont moove from the first page .
    That s just my personal experience
     
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  13. Auroinseo

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    Don't be aggressive,Just do proper SEO Plans for your website. Aggressive Seo technique may give u negative result for your web site.If u want to get quick result for your website in top label mainly u just focus on social networking site, creat an account on face book tweeter etc.
     
  14. d4l1t0s

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    Double Post*** Too much Vodka lol
     
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    From my experience there is no set rule. @d4l1tOs excellent observation and I think your comment makes more sense than the thousands of comments pretending to know what they are talking about.

    Some SEO companies will give you the run around. After all, they want you to buy their services long term.

    Personally, I don't worry about this anymore like I used to. I have no problem getting 1,000 links a day. The key here is spread them out. This is a great SEO method to get your site ranked high and accepted as an authority site.

    My 2 cents,

    Frank
     
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    The 15% is just crap people are feeding you. I have multiple sites with 5-10 keywords each on the first page and I never build that few links. Every brand new site I create starts off with 500-1000 links a week depending on the niche and existing competition. None of my sites get sandboxed and they all make money except for when my keyword research ends up being faulty which still happens every few sites.

    It is not the 15% that has helped your site it is the consistency of your link building.

    The number of links is not really as important as the consistency in your link building. I can drop 1k links a day on a new site with no problems as long as I keep it up. What you do not want to do (and happens a lot) is do a 10 or 50k xrumer run and then stop. The huge number of links then nothing is the problem not the number itself.

    Decide how many links you can build or buy for your site long term. Start with about 50% of that number and then build up to your max over the course of the first three months. That link building consistency is what will get your site to rank well.


     
  17. AquaClean

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    Well I guess if they are charging you 4000-5000 dollars for seo work, they must be correct! :rolleyes:

    Glad its working for you, but 6580 links can be done in less than 4 months with no problems from google, you could actually go even faster, but hey to each his own. That is why this is called a forum,

    The poster asks a question, 20-40 people post their objective OPINION, thus allowing the poster to make an educated decision.

    Im just sad to hear its taken 2 1/2 years to get where you are.
     
  18. d4l1t0s

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    6580 can be done on 36-48 hours ..... Ever heard about Xrumer !!
     
  19. AquaClean

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    Oh yeah trust me I know... I was just stating, that 2 1/2 years is a long time to have such a low amount of links
     
  20. Alex881

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    This thread is amusing. People, c`mon! How could there be a formula in place for determining such a thing?

    Wouldn't that mean that if a site breaks out of that formula, it will get penalized? And does that happen? Well , no! If that would happen the viral effect and the whole idea of the internet would not exist.