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How accurate is long tail pro KC?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aditya4all, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. aditya4all

    aditya4all Junior Member

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    Hi I've just brought long tail pro and playing with it. It's amazing how some of the features really save my time. But I'm wondering how accurate is the KC?
     
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    Good tool to use buddy
     
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    Long tail pro is really a good tool. Before i finalize my keywords, i use Trafic Travis free version and kwfinder to cross check the competition.
     
  5. VinceC

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    For me I will look at the juice link to that page when I see some low KC. Not 100% accuracy, u might want to manually check the each of the top 10 pages and see if any of them hid any PBNs.
    For sure it is a time saver
     
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    Not accurate at all imho, to often LTP sees weak keywords as strong and strong keywords as weak
     
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    Last year I asked 2 keyword suppliers for keywords based on a specific product, 1 used LTP and the others used 2 other tools ( can't recall what they were ) and I asked for reports on competiveness etc too.

    The results were so varied, LTP had 1 keyword as 25 ( easy to rank ) the other seller said that same keyword was difficult but not impossible.

    I think LTP is good but needs to be combined with at least 1 other tool to check metrics etc.
     
  8. Jack Torrance

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    About as accurate as a random number generator. Complete junk thanks to the fact they rely on the world's worst SEO tool known as Moz. Even my grandma is faster than Moz's pathetic excuse of a crawler. Moz is so bad it should be considered a scam and LTP will never reach its potential until it ditches Moz and partners with a real SEO tool like Majestic.

    You could have 1000000 links and Moz will find 2 after 20 years if you're lucky. Tells you competitors have 2 links when they have 20 from authority sites. I've wasted a lot of money in the past thanks to trusting Moz metrics trying to target "easy" looking terms with supposedly 0 links to the majority of sites which turn out to be borderline impossible when you check the top 10 in Maj.
     
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    PixelMathis Power Member

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    as accurate as a stormtrooper's aim.
     
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    Haha this one made me laugh. It's true though.

     
  11. 1morenoob

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    its crap, see if you can get a refund
     
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    jr D.I.P Power Member

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    Use these to finalize Longtail pro + Traffic travis + Market samurai = 100% accurate
     
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    at least most people still believe in KC crap, so less competition to rank for easy kw for sure.
     
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    This is the definition from the LTP site (http://www.longtailpro.com/how-is-keyword-competitiveness-calculated-in-long-tail-platinum/):

    LTP KC definition.jpg

    Basically (as others have said) it relies heavily on PA, which can be easily manipulated by link building rather than any real "authority". I agree with including "keyword in title" as this is a reasonable indication of whether the site is optimised for that keyword. Not sure about length of domain name though.

    I use LTP and its not a bad tool for finding low comp keywords....you just have to watch for "false positives" on high KC keywords, and do you own research/checking.
     
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    KC accuracy is trash. I learned the hard way.
     
  16. aditya4all

    aditya4all Junior Member

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    Thanks for the comments folks.. It was very useful for me to figure out the KC. Seems like when it comes to determine keyword competition, manual way is the best!
     
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    Sorry to bump an old thread guys but recently I stumbled upon "Niche genetics" which seems quite better. Anyone used that stuff?
     
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    LTP is good to use.
    You can use UNF and Market Samurai.
    To check your KW competition you can try KW finder.
     
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    great tool buddy just makes a try
     
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    That one of the best tool but still I am using ubersuggest. :D