Hiring a VA from the philippines (pay question)

richelld said:

The amount you pay them should be so little it does not need accounting for. see:

THE OUTSOURCING TRUTH:

I vacation and outsource to the philippines and $5/day is a lot to these people. If you pay more its just going to their pimp or your overpaying them.

any agency you run into is only paying its workers $5/day and keeping the rest, even if they charge you exorbitantly like $5/hour. When you call customer support for companies like paypal or comcast, the philippinos your speaking to are only paid $5/day, so it has nothing to do with experience or ability.

And they aren't worth much more than that, the majority of philippinos that have never lived in the US merely speak english but do not understand it (though they convincingly pretend to -- huge nightmare to train them). and they are also inclined to scamming; this is a place where there are no public restrooms because the philippino would steal everything in them including the bowl.

if your going direct and not through an agency, pay them a total of $7-$10/day = $5 wage + $2-$5 computer/internet expense.


you must know that here in PH people can buy a bread-roll for 2 american pennies, so $1 feeds the whole extended family.


and noone pays rent

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CatInTheWall said:

Thanks for some of your comments and obviously that one poster was a douche. I've been working with filipinos for a while now through odesk and most are just great.

I've always used Odesk and the reason I want to change is because they charge 10%. That's why I'm wondering when using paypal to pay them if I need to collect any information from them. From what I've read I can just have them send me an invoice? I don't have an accountant yet and I'm trying to make sure I'm collecting all the correct documentation so when I do hire one to file my taxes I have all the info they need.

Thanks for the referral but i'm looking for a VA that is an exceptional writer. I've been using bestjobs.ph to find VA's. After the interview process if I can't find anyone who stands out I may use virtual staff finder.

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richelld said:

The amount you pay them should be so little it does not need accounting for. see:

THE OUTSOURCING TRUTH:

I vacation and outsource to the philippines and $5/day is a lot to these people. If you pay more its just going to their pimp or your overpaying them.

any agency you run into is only paying its workers $5/day and keeping the rest, even if they charge you exorbitantly like $5/hour. When you call customer support for companies like paypal or comcast, the philippinos your speaking to are only paid $5/day, so it has nothing to do with experience or ability.

And they aren't worth much more than that, the majority of philippinos that have never lived in the US merely speak english but do not understand it (though they convincingly pretend to -- huge nightmare to train them). and they are also inclined to scamming; this is a place where there are no public restrooms because the philippino would steal everything in them including the bowl.

if your going direct and not through an agency, pay them a total of $7-$10/day = $5 wage + $2-$5 computer/internet expense.


you must know that here in PH people can buy a bread-roll for 2 american pennies, so $1 feeds the whole extended family.


and noone pays rent

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richelld said:

The amount you pay them should be so little it does not need accounting for. see:

THE OUTSOURCING TRUTH:

I vacation and outsource to the philippines and $5/day is a lot to these people. If you pay more its just going to their pimp or your overpaying them.

any agency you run into is only paying its workers $5/day and keeping the rest, even if they charge you exorbitantly like $5/hour. When you call customer support for companies like paypal or comcast, the philippinos your speaking to are only paid $5/day, so it has nothing to do with experience or ability.

And they aren't worth much more than that, the majority of philippinos that have never lived in the US merely speak english but do not understand it (though they convincingly pretend to -- huge nightmare to train them). and they are also inclined to scamming; this is a place where there are no public restrooms because the philippino would steal everything in them including the bowl.

if your going direct and not through an agency, pay them a total of $7-$10/day = $5 wage + $2-$5 computer/internet expense.


you must know that here in PH people can buy a bread-roll for 2 american pennies, so $1 feeds the whole extended family.


and noone pays rent

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marusia said:

Thanks for the clarification. I usually pay in USD. I don't go lower than $4-5 an hour though, as I hear that's a livable wage in the Philippines and if you just keep trying to lower their pay, it lowers morale and gives you a higher chance of getting shittier work done. At least that seems to be the case in most countries. I'm not gonna bust my ass for you if it's not even paying my bills.

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terry02 said:

A decent Filipino telemarketer/program tester... working a full time job for a multi national Company is making anywhere from an avg of 12k - 30k (PHP) per month plus benefits and 13th month pay for a normal 40 hr work week. 30k being the high end and doing very well (the peso (PHP) is about 43 to 1 right now). That is for Metro Manila, so it might be slightly less once you get outside the city; and even less, once you get into the provinces.

(That is gross pay less taxes)

The Philippines is just like anywhere else, you have to be selective on who you hire and you'll might go thru several contractors before you find the right fit.

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