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Higher education poll

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by mightybh, Aug 4, 2011.

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What do you think about higher education?

  1. I went to university/college and I think it was worth it overall.

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  2. I went to university/college and I think it was BS overall

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  3. I did not go to university/college and I think it maybe worth it overall

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  4. I did not go to university/college and I think it's BS

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  1. mightybh

    mightybh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    We are looking at an overall picture here. Experience, knowlege, skills, opportunities, costs, social, long term potential etc.
     
  2. SahL

    SahL Elite Member

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    I bet you'll get max no of votes on the first option. :)
     
  3. DebtFreeMe

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    I'll graduate in March with my Bachelors in Economics and Finance and can say fundamentally that I have learned nothing that I wasn't able to learn on my own if I had wanted to or needed to.

    The only thing my degree will do for me is open doors, what happens once I walk through those will not be based on anything I learned in college, but will be dependent on my own education, experience, and knowledge of the opportunity presented.
     
  4. wowhaxor

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    I dropped out of school at 15 (was a bad kid overall) and I do alright for myself :)

    I have taken a few college classes but never got a degree, was basically a waste of money for me personally.
     
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  5. Bhaval

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    Im at uni and overall so far its a good experience and will set me up for a great future. End of the day it comes down to you as a person and weather you want/need to go.

    People may say its bullshit, but until you've experienced it, who are you to judge? And people who have been and not enjoyed it, thats a personal opinion just like on most things in life some people will enjoy it and others will not.

    Overall just do whats best for you :)
     
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    I graduate next year with a bachelors in Financial Management...

    Overall im very happy im studying...as said above it opens doors..

    I do however feel that It has given me a broader knowledge of business, money and economics in general. Nothing SPECIFIC though...buy overall i feel it helps me grow as a person and understand the world i live in just a little better...

    Dont think its going to help me too much in IM though...
     
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    I'm doing Criminology and it's ok. It's nothing you can't learn on your own.
     
  8. mightybh

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    A friend of mine hated smoking or any kind of drugs all his life. He was one of those people who would complain about people smoking around him and bash you for it. We took him to Amsterdam a year ago. He does nothing but smoke weed now days. I guess I was trying to make a point that most people who bash higher education never experienced it but by the looks of it my cunning plan was way to obvious and they did not bother voting :D
     
  9. TNphoneman

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    Never went and never will. For those that think it opens doors... HA HA HA HA Ask all those that have degrees and are now mowing lawns what kind of doors it has opened for them. Or ask the ones that are making less than 40k with a degree. As far as financial... that is a joke. They teach on how to work with borrowed money. That is how we got into all this mess in the first place. They call it leveraging, I call it stupid. Yea it works out some times but more often than not it fails. Look at the US debt right now and tell me how that is good financial planning by these college educated fools in Washington.

    I used to install phone systems and I can tell you that the most highly educated people i.e. doctors, lawyers etc. have the least amount of common sense. I could probably learn to do brain surgery easier than teaching them how to use their phone.

    Not positive but I think there is a secret class called Common Sense 101 where they line them up against the wall and beat it out of them.
     
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    for me looks that thing with your friend like you just corrupt an innocent soul :p bad gurl ! :)

    voted on your poll , I really think education it's a must for everyone , now ... depend by the field , what you study on college / uni ... and about the possibilities ... I started to study's at two uni's when I was young , I tough I can push them both and to work in same time ... unfortunately never was able to get my degrees life turned me down and I had to focus on more urgent things , now when live is settled I don't see any point to go back to finish my studies and to get my degrees just because will not help me anymore and anyway I don't have nothing new to learn from spending countless hours on library just to pass some exams lol :)
     
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  11. VanillaH

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    Interesting question. It gave me a general knowledge that has been useful, but that's it.

    Now, I really hate the fact that higher education comes along with a debt of THOUSANDS of dollars. I don't care if we call it "leverage", "investment" or whatever -- truth is, it's a debt! Higher education should be free.
     
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    If you want to work under someone who bosses you about then get a shitty degree.

    I'd rather work for myself. I've learnt more since i left school than when i was in School , But thats just me !
     
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    I suppose it all depends on what you want to do. Certain professionals certainly require a degree and if that's your desired life long profession go for it and enjoy it!

    However people taking random courses hoping something will click and just going to college because that's what they're "supposed" to do after high school are making a mistake IMO. I would hire someone with 2 years of extremely entry level work experience in the field, no college education, over someone with no work experience and a 4 year degree.

    You really do have to weigh things, not all fields and all employers think like that and god knows I worked a couple of crappy jobs when I was young but if you work hard enough and you demonstrate the proper qualities you can move up in most lines of work.

    Also if you are running a small business its good to have a degree to show "the establishment" you're normal when you're trying to get investment capital; there's no disputing that.

    Anyways I suppose I'm undecided all things considered. I know that college wasn't necessary for me and I wouldn't change a thing as I do better than anyone I know that I grew up with who did go the college to career route (am only 25 so it may change in the next 3-5 years) but to each his own.
     
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    College is stupid and I plan on dropping out soon. ;)
     
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    In autumn my last year of high school starts.
    If i get my IM projects started i won't even bother going to school, i'll drop out.

    Nothing that they teach me, that i can't teach myself without wasting a lot of time with homework and useless subjects.

    Of course i could stick with school, get my degree and work as a 9-5 programmer for someone else like all my other classmates probably will... Fuck no, i'm gonna do IM
     
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    I have B.Sc Engineering degree for Electrical and Electronics Engineer. But now i don't those technical skills to earn money.
    BHW is my real university to live with money :D