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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Sinnestro, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. Sinnestro

    Sinnestro Newbie

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    I tried posting in the Proxy section last week but haven't had a single hit and want to get the ball rolling if at all possible. Hopefully the lounge may offer better perspective for me? Thank you so much in advance!

    Hey everyone hopefully we can all come to a reasonable assumption that you are never truly anonymous, unfortunately. There is though, a lot you can do to secure yourself and stay somewhat hidden.

    Over the past few months I have been doing a lot of research trying to figure out the absolute best way to do this. I found one thread that I have read a few times because this person and the contributors were head on, but the OP never provided any closure of what he wound up with.

    Anyway, getting to the point. The route I was thinking of going was very similar to this with a few changes. The way I would go would be: Linux LiveUSB > Load VPN on LiveUSB > Connect to VPS (either Windows or Linux, not really sure which?) > Run Whonix through the VPS > In Whonix Workstation run another different provider VPN > connect through Whonix Gateway's TOR.

    This route is provided that all VPN and VPS providers are offshore. See, now my question would be, is this the correct order to run the processes in (mainly, **can you run Whonix from the VPS, or is there a better way to do it**)? I figured this was the best route because it provides a few (5) different layers of security- please correct me if I'm wrong!

    Another question would be, should you VPN the host computer, or no because when you insert and boot from the liveusb it doesn't matter?

    And lastly, should you use a Linux LiveUSB connecting to a Linux VPS, Linux LiveUSB to Windows VPS, etc? What would be the best/easiest route for this?

    PS: Due to the conspiracy over at truecrypt, I would be using DM-Crypt/LUKS to encrypt the liveusb. Would it be smart as well to encrypt the VPS and if so how hard would this be? Thank you so much everyone I know we will be able to get some great feedback here ! Hope to hear back soon!
     
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  2. JoeMongan

    JoeMongan Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Here are a couple of things you need to consider...

    1. Start breaking up those walls of text into paragraphs so people will read them.

    2. Nothing is anonymous as long as it's in your name.

    -RK
     
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  3. Sinnestro

    Sinnestro Newbie

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    I keep trying to post it with spaces between the sentences but it is reformatting it and deleting my 'enter' hits. Any idea why this is? I figured that is why I'm not getting many responses but I do not know how to fix the problem. Very annoying if you ask me.. Also, I think it is quite general knowledge that if something is in your name it is not anonymous, and I didn't give any hints that anything was going to be in my name, fortunately. I would hope to think that the route that I'm hoping to pursue is more on an advanced line of thought then on the same level as someone who thinks anonymity is even truly possible- its not. I'm just requesting feedback on this specific order of privacy :) Lord please explain to me why everytime I reply it deletes my paragraph structure and spacing??
     
  4. Dresden

    Dresden Regular Member

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    OP I'm not trying to be a dick but if your looking for an answer to your question then I'd suggest putting that wall of text into paragraphs. I guess try writing it in Word and then pasting it here.
     
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  5. Sinnestro

    Sinnestro Newbie

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    Tried that. Tried posting in paragraph form and it keeps turning it to sentences when I post. Any suggestions or know why this keeps happening?

    Thanks!

    edit: must have been the browser, all is fixed thanks! Hoping to hear some great feedback now!
     
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  6. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Anonymity steps depend on the threat model. What can be functionally anonymous for action A could be totally transparent for action B.