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aftershock2020
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scratbandit
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that is amazing everyday I am blown away by what is givin in this site..
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tonlilaz
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So all these dudes running the super expensive traffic membership programs. . . . Like a thousand bucks a month . . .
I can tell you in one post what they can't explain to you in 10 dvd's.
Here's how to get your domain in 15 of the top 20 search results for a given keyword (assuming it's not viagra or loans or whatever).
First, get a domain name that is based on the keyword or search term. Even if you have to get a .info or .mobi or whatever. Let's assume you want to rank for cream puffs. Just go buy creampuffs.info or whatever. You can find SOMETHING.
Now - this isn't how to get your SITE listed in 15 of the top 20 SERP results but how to get your domain name listed in 75% of the first 2 or 3 pages.
- Create a myspace profile named Yourdomain.com
- Submit 1 article to article directories with your keyword as the title
- Upload Videos with your url in the description to Myspace tv
- Create an Amazon AStore named Yourdomain-com
- Create a channel on Youtube using your keyword
- Post a topic on related forums with the keyword in the subject line. (try something like yourdomain.com may be for sale - anyone interested?)
- Create a Yahoo Group called Yourdomain-com
- Create a Google group called Yourdomain-com
- Create a Mybloglog account named yourdomain.com
- Use a social bookmarking program like BookMarking Demon
- Upload video to AOL video with the title yourdomain.com and your url in the description
- Run all of these urls (not your own site) through BMD, TrackBack Spider, Blogpinger, and whatever else you can leave on while you sleep.
Thats it. I can show you examples where I have done this, and MyDomain.Com or whatever is listed in not only 75% of the first 20 serp results, but also a huge amount of the following serp pages, as well.
If you don't believe me, take a search term or phrase with mid level competition and try it. Wait a couple weeks at most.
I know it works because I've replicated it again and again and again.
I could pull together some screen shots of my own examples, type this up into a 10 page idiot proof pdf, and WSO it or something.
But I don't care.
What I want is someone to help me source a supplier for dvd's/cd's/books/postrs that meet the specifications I laid out in another thread and that offers a good profit margin.
Or someone who is a good salesman to help me sell advertising for a %.
Not because I don't love stupid money as much as the next person, but these are the 2 things that matter to me at the moment.
nice post, great info
PitBoss
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dejacrew, you frelling rock! Thank you very much for the excellent summary. + rep! 
We need more posts like this to sort through the BS that most of the "ghoulrus" are pushing. Man, it's an absolute slog going through some of their stuff.
Thanks also to everyone else who gave good comments and suggestions in this thread.
We need more posts like this to sort through the BS that most of the "ghoulrus" are pushing. Man, it's an absolute slog going through some of their stuff.
Thanks also to everyone else who gave good comments and suggestions in this thread.
dejacrew, you frelling rock! Thank you very much for the excellent summary. + rep!
We need more posts like this to sort through the BS that most of the "ghoulrus" are pushing. Man, it's an absolute slog going through some of their stuff.
Thanks also to everyone else who gave good comments and suggestions in this thread.
Frelling... LOL! Love the Farscape reference!
So, if I understand you correct (English is not my native language so sometimes I'm wrong), this is mainly about branding. The idea being that because your domain name is everywhere where potential customers look for a solution to whatever problem you can solve... they'll more likely type in your domain name than just click the link to one of your competitors.
(If I misunderstand... how else do you get their traffic if there are no clickable links?)
Thanks for a little clarification (I'll look up your other posts on this subject too... this was a great post though - thanks + rep given
)What I'm suggesting is that you do both.
You create back links with relevant anchor text for your keywords on the authority sites, like everyone else tells you to do.
But you also NAME your accounts your domain name, and then you build backlinks to those accounts, instead of your own domain.
This creates a cumulative effect whereby your domain is vaulted to the top of the SERPS, and beyond that, the other results all have your domain name in the title.
Thus, pushing your competitors out of the top SERPS.
Thus getting you more clicks to your own domain.
Thus insuring creating a massive psychological advantage for you when you promote or sell something.
Therefore giving you a strategic advantage in your own market, where people have to come to YOU for JV opportunities, where you are seen as an authority, where your site is getting more traffic than anyone else, and where your affiliate products or your own products are converting at 20-50% higher than anyone elses.
You create back links with relevant anchor text for your keywords on the authority sites, like everyone else tells you to do.
But you also NAME your accounts your domain name, and then you build backlinks to those accounts, instead of your own domain.
This creates a cumulative effect whereby your domain is vaulted to the top of the SERPS, and beyond that, the other results all have your domain name in the title.
Thus, pushing your competitors out of the top SERPS.
Thus getting you more clicks to your own domain.
Thus insuring creating a massive psychological advantage for you when you promote or sell something.
Therefore giving you a strategic advantage in your own market, where people have to come to YOU for JV opportunities, where you are seen as an authority, where your site is getting more traffic than anyone else, and where your affiliate products or your own products are converting at 20-50% higher than anyone elses.
Since all of my earning sites are privately registered, and because I have learned to cover my footprints VERY well, and I don't think anyone can find anything that's making me my real money -
You can see an example with the site that I've already put out there.
Wudangquan.com . . . The home page recently got pushed into the supplemental results because I was doing something google REALLY didn't like, but it will be back in a few days.
But you know what? Even they they pushed me supplemental - IT DOESN'T MATTER. That google slap bullshit doesn't effect ANY of my revenue streams, and neither do Google dances, algorhythm changes, etc. No matter what happens with organic search, I can still get the organic search traffic.
Go to google (.com, not .BFE), and search for wudangquan.
Here's the link for the search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=wudangquan&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enCN216CN216
As you will see, Google pushed my home page supplemental because I was doing something REAL Black hat (that nobody on these forums has ever talked about, btw).
Am I bummed? No.
I'll get the index page back in the serps in a couple of days.
In the meantime, I still own 60% of the first few pages of SERPS, and at least that much of the 3-20th pages.
Google can't hurt me, and if they do, they can't hurt me badly, or for long.
This is just an example. I do the same thing with MUCH more competitive terms, but those sites and niches are why I am retiring next month, so I don't need them out there (and don't bother trying to find them, because you won't).
J
P.S. - If I wasn't so lazy and this wasn't a not for profit site, I'd spam some backlinks to these sites with my domain in them, and I would control this niche in it's entirety, like I do with the more lucrative ones.
You can see an example with the site that I've already put out there.
Wudangquan.com . . . The home page recently got pushed into the supplemental results because I was doing something google REALLY didn't like, but it will be back in a few days.
But you know what? Even they they pushed me supplemental - IT DOESN'T MATTER. That google slap bullshit doesn't effect ANY of my revenue streams, and neither do Google dances, algorhythm changes, etc. No matter what happens with organic search, I can still get the organic search traffic.
Go to google (.com, not .BFE), and search for wudangquan.
Here's the link for the search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=wudangquan&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enCN216CN216
As you will see, Google pushed my home page supplemental because I was doing something REAL Black hat (that nobody on these forums has ever talked about, btw).
Am I bummed? No.
I'll get the index page back in the serps in a couple of days.
In the meantime, I still own 60% of the first few pages of SERPS, and at least that much of the 3-20th pages.
Google can't hurt me, and if they do, they can't hurt me badly, or for long.
This is just an example. I do the same thing with MUCH more competitive terms, but those sites and niches are why I am retiring next month, so I don't need them out there (and don't bother trying to find them, because you won't).
J
P.S. - If I wasn't so lazy and this wasn't a not for profit site, I'd spam some backlinks to these sites with my domain in them, and I would control this niche in it's entirety, like I do with the more lucrative ones.
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oscarslater
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great stuff here
now about that black hat method..........
PM with the details, show me how to do it, do it for me, pay someone else to do it for me, what you don't think so. Oh well I did ask
seriously great info here
thanks
os....
now about that black hat method..........
PM with the details, show me how to do it, do it for me, pay someone else to do it for me, what you don't think so. Oh well I did ask
seriously great info here
thanks
os....
aftershock2020
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So, if I understand you correct (English is not my native language so sometimes I'm wrong), this is mainly about branding. The idea being that because your domain name is everywhere where potential customers look for a solution to whatever problem you can solve... they'll more likely type in your domain name than just click the link to one of your competitors.
(If I misunderstand... how else do you get their traffic if there are no clickable links?)
Thanks for a little clarification (I'll look up your other posts on this subject too... this was a great post though - thanks + rep given
Sure it is branding. Be careful though to keep the focus on your website. This method os commonly known as ' commercial branding ' in the advertising world. As you can see, obviously, it is targetted for building the name of the company/website and it's reputation as an authority vs. the ' guru ' method of promoting the concept of ' self-name branding,' which none of us need to do.
Examples:
Commercial branding -
" domainname.com is the best place for getting the most up to date information on blah,blah,blah. ''
Note that the name of the company is the target focus as the resource.
Self-name branding -
" Hi, I'm Mike You-all-know-me and I've got another great product for you to buy from me that you don't need and will only once again motivate you for buying even bigger backend packages that still don't give you the whole picture and of course never will. As my subscriber, you can get all of this for just 3 easy payments of $4,999.99 "
Note that the target focus is on the guy selling the product. This is a distraction from the CRAP they are offering you as a ' product ' that otherwise we wouldn't ever buy, because we already know it and know that it is going to be just another rehash.
It's like the old cliche' says..." People hate to be sold but they LOVE to buy. "
Food for thought.
Indeed - thanks for adding even more value to this great thread!
So...
let's say you have an eCommerce site selling Bakery goods and it's called Mama's Italian Bakery and Cream Puffs is 1 of many keywords you can target as there are others such as Rainbow Cookies and Almond Biscotti's so on and so forth.
Are you taking each one of these products that you carry in your online store which also happen to be keyword search terms that people search on, and you would then go through the steps mentioned above in the initial post for each of these keywords so as to give you a presence for that term but through these individual pages as a means to an end..
If this worked well as you say it does....and I'm not doubting you, wouldn't this keep my $ site ( Main Website/eCommerce store ) off the 1st page of the SERPS so as for me to never make it there without perhaps the push that I would need from high PR inbound links from other sites?
So are we simply then creating these individual pages to rank high for that term simply to have the ability to give mention to our Main $ site as the site to visit if you want to BUY Cream Puffs
Is that the intent here.
let's say you have an eCommerce site selling Bakery goods and it's called Mama's Italian Bakery and Cream Puffs is 1 of many keywords you can target as there are others such as Rainbow Cookies and Almond Biscotti's so on and so forth.
Are you taking each one of these products that you carry in your online store which also happen to be keyword search terms that people search on, and you would then go through the steps mentioned above in the initial post for each of these keywords so as to give you a presence for that term but through these individual pages as a means to an end..
If this worked well as you say it does....and I'm not doubting you, wouldn't this keep my $ site ( Main Website/eCommerce store ) off the 1st page of the SERPS so as for me to never make it there without perhaps the push that I would need from high PR inbound links from other sites?
So are we simply then creating these individual pages to rank high for that term simply to have the ability to give mention to our Main $ site as the site to visit if you want to BUY Cream Puffs
Is that the intent here.
I'm not sure I totally understand the question because I'm kind of in multi-tasking mode and can't focus well right now, but . . .
I'm talking about dominating 1 keyword.
If you wanted to dominate several, you just apply the process to the other keywords.
What I am not suggesting is that you do it for Mama's italian bakery.com or whatever. I'm suggesting that you do something like go register biscotti.info, creampuffs.info, or buybiscotti.info or whatever.
Either put up a mirror, do a 301, or create a keyword specific offer for the domain.
If you do it this way, it should work with no problem. And if you're running a profitable site, I think $10 for 10 keyword based .info landing page sites shouldn't be a huge deal.
But to be honest, I would never have registered "MamasItalianBakery.Com" in the first place.
It's somewhat brandable I guess, but it really sucks for SEO, unless you're going to break it down into subdomains or a directory structure based on your keywords like mib.com/pastries or biscotti.mib.com or whatever.
In that case, you can do this, too I suppose.
As for getting your own site in the top of the SERPS - As I mentioned, you do want to drop liks as well.
And you need to augment this with your own SEO work (whatever that is).
What I'm talking about though isn't how to get the top position for a keyword.
I can talk about that, but that's not what I meant to talk about.
What I am suggesting is that you can easily occupy 80-90% of the first few pages of SERPS for any Keyword with under a million results (and without bad ass SEO's competing with you full time for it) by doing this, so that when people search for a term, they ONLY see your domain name in all of the results.
And if you think they won't follow a link to it, or type it in, well . . . I guess you should try it out and be the judge of that.
I could write out a pretty detailed post about how to get your site listed in the top organic SERP results, as well because it's not difficult, and I assumed that all of that has been covered many times before.
I just thought that this was something that most people probably didn't know about, or understand the full ramfications of, so I wanted to post that.
If at some point I get really bored, I might post a detailed guide (based on my experiences only) about how to organically rank a site in the SERPS.
I think lots of people have covered that ground, before though.
Suffice it to say that the best thing to is to modularize your content into different sub directories, do whatever you can do to build backlinks from related (and unrelated sources), and try your hardest to get some links on super authority sites like Wikipedia, even though they don't pass link juice. Than wait a bit and hope that you not only get ranked at the top, but that your site is recognized as an authority on the subject because of the specific structure and content you've created.
But anyway - like I said I don't feel like typing up another 5 page post right now . . .
Hope that answers your question. In short:
This method will work but you need to break your structure apart into keyword specific subdomains or folders to rank
I wasn't intending to talk about getting your site organically ranked at the top of the SERPS but may if I get bored or somebody else doesn't do a better job before I find time (which would be cool - I like to read what other people are doing as much as the next guy!).
J
I'm talking about dominating 1 keyword.
If you wanted to dominate several, you just apply the process to the other keywords.
What I am not suggesting is that you do it for Mama's italian bakery.com or whatever. I'm suggesting that you do something like go register biscotti.info, creampuffs.info, or buybiscotti.info or whatever.
Either put up a mirror, do a 301, or create a keyword specific offer for the domain.
If you do it this way, it should work with no problem. And if you're running a profitable site, I think $10 for 10 keyword based .info landing page sites shouldn't be a huge deal.
But to be honest, I would never have registered "MamasItalianBakery.Com" in the first place.
It's somewhat brandable I guess, but it really sucks for SEO, unless you're going to break it down into subdomains or a directory structure based on your keywords like mib.com/pastries or biscotti.mib.com or whatever.
In that case, you can do this, too I suppose.
As for getting your own site in the top of the SERPS - As I mentioned, you do want to drop liks as well.
And you need to augment this with your own SEO work (whatever that is).
What I'm talking about though isn't how to get the top position for a keyword.
I can talk about that, but that's not what I meant to talk about.
What I am suggesting is that you can easily occupy 80-90% of the first few pages of SERPS for any Keyword with under a million results (and without bad ass SEO's competing with you full time for it) by doing this, so that when people search for a term, they ONLY see your domain name in all of the results.
And if you think they won't follow a link to it, or type it in, well . . . I guess you should try it out and be the judge of that.
I could write out a pretty detailed post about how to get your site listed in the top organic SERP results, as well because it's not difficult, and I assumed that all of that has been covered many times before.
I just thought that this was something that most people probably didn't know about, or understand the full ramfications of, so I wanted to post that.
If at some point I get really bored, I might post a detailed guide (based on my experiences only) about how to organically rank a site in the SERPS.
I think lots of people have covered that ground, before though.
Suffice it to say that the best thing to is to modularize your content into different sub directories, do whatever you can do to build backlinks from related (and unrelated sources), and try your hardest to get some links on super authority sites like Wikipedia, even though they don't pass link juice. Than wait a bit and hope that you not only get ranked at the top, but that your site is recognized as an authority on the subject because of the specific structure and content you've created.
But anyway - like I said I don't feel like typing up another 5 page post right now . . .
Hope that answers your question. In short:
This method will work but you need to break your structure apart into keyword specific subdomains or folders to rank
I wasn't intending to talk about getting your site organically ranked at the top of the SERPS but may if I get bored or somebody else doesn't do a better job before I find time (which would be cool - I like to read what other people are doing as much as the next guy!).
J
oscarslater
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- Mar 13, 2008
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great post here and on behalf of all the noobs (me being the nooobiest of noooooobs) thanks
nice and easy to read and implement
all the best
os....
nice and easy to read and implement
all the best
os....
Hi Dejacrew,
I think what you wrote is a really great guide that lots of us have missed. Not sure about the others but i would love to see you write how to organically rank. Even if it has been covered before I like they way you write.. kinda short and to the point. Would love to hear how you rank your sites organically.
Another question.. I have been marketing my sites like you said with myspace profile, astore, articles aso. Before i was putting lots of time to crosslink articles and squidoo pages to make them all atleast gain one backlink from eachother (very time consuming). Today i tried trackback spider and even if very low sucess rate i still gained some trackback to my articles and then i pinged the trackbacks. You guys have any thought of this? Is there a better way to gain backlinks to your articles and profiles out there? I guess social bookmark them but it feels like those backlinks won't be there for very long.
I think what you wrote is a really great guide that lots of us have missed. Not sure about the others but i would love to see you write how to organically rank. Even if it has been covered before I like they way you write.. kinda short and to the point. Would love to hear how you rank your sites organically.
Another question.. I have been marketing my sites like you said with myspace profile, astore, articles aso. Before i was putting lots of time to crosslink articles and squidoo pages to make them all atleast gain one backlink from eachother (very time consuming). Today i tried trackback spider and even if very low sucess rate i still gained some trackback to my articles and then i pinged the trackbacks. You guys have any thought of this? Is there a better way to gain backlinks to your articles and profiles out there? I guess social bookmark them but it feels like those backlinks won't be there for very long.
wervetowerk
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- Apr 28, 2008
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First off this post is the shit, thanks for it. I'll be trying this tonight and will also post my results on how it works after a week or two. rep given.
second, would love to see a simple explanation on organic SEO in the style of the original post, it looks like you're talking about silos but I'm guessing you can break it down into a very simple form that would help immensely.
second, would love to see a simple explanation on organic SEO in the style of the original post, it looks like you're talking about silos but I'm guessing you can break it down into a very simple form that would help immensely.
About getting links.
Read my post about synergy.
Build a large diverse content network.
Run some coop ad schemes on those. DP COOP, LINK VAULT, or whtever.
There's alot of speculation that these can hurt your sites (by having to much of the same anchor text in the links, etc.) and you'll get penalized.
But, you could point that link vaultage at your myspace profile named keyword.com, your yahoo group called keyword.com, your youtube channel called yourdomain.com, etc. using the keyword as the anchor text.
Don't stake your financial success or failure on it, but I think you're pretty safe doing that.
If you do some other very automated link building stuff to those url's, and point some link vaultage at them, and if you have chosen your domain well, and if you have done some other REAL seo work for your real domain, you should be able to take the entire first 2 pages within a couple weeks.
Anyway guys . . . I made an offer in the B/S/T section and sent the money in.
I can and will post some stuff for free, as I have time, but I don't have that much free time.
My contract with this university ends on July 15th, and on July 15th I'll be on my way to Wudang.
I am scrambling to just get the basic work that *I* need to do done, so that I have enough stable infrastructure in place that I don't have to deal with this stuff or be distracted by it.
The offer was for a 30 day step by step program for 3 hours of actionable material every day (not running automated programs, but 3 hours of real work) you can do, a beginning, middle and final analysis of your project, and some conferences from June 10th-July 10th as a little renovation fundraiser for the place I'll be living.
If the mods approve that, I'll do that.
If they don't, that's cool with me, and I'll post whatever I have time for. I just honestly don't have enough time to dump (the little bit) that I know on you in 30 days, maintain my own projects, hang out with my girlfriend before I go off to become celibate, etc.
Hope you guys understand. Also I can't answer your pm's. Apologies.
Read my post about synergy.
Build a large diverse content network.
Run some coop ad schemes on those. DP COOP, LINK VAULT, or whtever.
There's alot of speculation that these can hurt your sites (by having to much of the same anchor text in the links, etc.) and you'll get penalized.
But, you could point that link vaultage at your myspace profile named keyword.com, your yahoo group called keyword.com, your youtube channel called yourdomain.com, etc. using the keyword as the anchor text.
Don't stake your financial success or failure on it, but I think you're pretty safe doing that.
If you do some other very automated link building stuff to those url's, and point some link vaultage at them, and if you have chosen your domain well, and if you have done some other REAL seo work for your real domain, you should be able to take the entire first 2 pages within a couple weeks.
Anyway guys . . . I made an offer in the B/S/T section and sent the money in.
I can and will post some stuff for free, as I have time, but I don't have that much free time.
My contract with this university ends on July 15th, and on July 15th I'll be on my way to Wudang.
I am scrambling to just get the basic work that *I* need to do done, so that I have enough stable infrastructure in place that I don't have to deal with this stuff or be distracted by it.
The offer was for a 30 day step by step program for 3 hours of actionable material every day (not running automated programs, but 3 hours of real work) you can do, a beginning, middle and final analysis of your project, and some conferences from June 10th-July 10th as a little renovation fundraiser for the place I'll be living.
If the mods approve that, I'll do that.
If they don't, that's cool with me, and I'll post whatever I have time for. I just honestly don't have enough time to dump (the little bit) that I know on you in 30 days, maintain my own projects, hang out with my girlfriend before I go off to become celibate, etc.
Hope you guys understand. Also I can't answer your pm's. Apologies.
aftershock2020
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- Oct 19, 2007
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Crash course in organic search:
First things first... there isn't any way around the effort of generating content, guys. It has to be done, time consuming or not. However, there are easier means.
Articles are a given but here is a really quick process that will cut the need for that down by leaps and bounds. Understand that this is to be used in addition but not to replace quality seo techniques...it is in fact, a great one itself.
$ Get a list of the top 5 sites for the primary keywords you want for your site.
$ Go to ' popuri.us ' and compare your stats against those competitors.
$ Click on the resulting links and each of your competition's backlinks for each of those services listed will be revealed to you.
$ Add as many of these backlinking sites to your site as possible by following the linking rules and guidelines the require.
You have the backlinks of your competition and will boost the ranking process in no time flat, depending on how long it takes the linking sites to post you in their links pages.
Note: Be sure and check your competition's sites in both formats, with and without the ' www. ' prefix.
You can also check who is actually making money, traffic and growth from running their domain at ' spyfu.com '
Hope this helps.