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Help With Domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by fairbjosh, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. fairbjosh

    fairbjosh Registered Member

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    Your guys opinion on what would be better for domain name it is 2 words.
    keyword#1-keyword#2
    bestkeyword#1-keyword#2

    any other suggestions would help
     
  2. fairbjosh

    fairbjosh Registered Member

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    the first one is a .communication the second one is .network it will not let me post the abbreviations for some reason
     
  3. Aty

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    criticalmess Regular Member

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    I think that less characters is better.

    Other than that, buy both...
     
  5. fairbjosh

    fairbjosh Registered Member

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    keyword#1keyword#2 is not available or would of bought it already
     
  6. criticalmess

    criticalmess Regular Member

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    Why are you saying hyphens are not good? Can you base this assumption on solid facts?
     
  7. fairbjosh

    fairbjosh Registered Member

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    so which one would everyone chose?
     
  8. Aty

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    Yes, I've had domains with and without hyphens, and the ones without are better when it comes to ranking them.
     
  9. tashrif

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    get rid of the hyphens
     
  10. AbbyBryant

    AbbyBryant Newbie

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    OK, there are lots of opinions on this, so many SEO's will have contradict views. Nothing wrong with that :) Sure, Search engines and research speculates now that exact match domain names are no longer the be-all, end all of SEO relative positioning.
    I have done several tests with regards to this, building test sites that are exact vs non-exact match domains based on market research. The exact match always (90%) of the time, beat out the other versions.
    All my hyphenated domains tests have always taken longer (ave 44% longer) to start ranking, gathering rankings based on KW research than the non-hyphenated counterpart.
    One other thing to consider is how search engines perceive hyphenated domains. Because they have been known to be used/abused by spammers (which ultimately made them less credible from a trust perspective). This in turn was a direct correlation to the amount of time I mentioned (ave 44% longer) to get ranking.. search engines have a tendency to take longer authenticating these domain types, vs their non-hyphenated cousins.
    If your looking for quicker results, perhaps focused around 1-2 main keywords, then the exact match domain (non-hyphenated) would be your best bet, to build the site/domain around. For that specific keyword or 2, it will yield the quickest results over time. Link building, social profiles etc will still need to be built out to get signals moving in the domains favor to establish itself within the SERP's. It will be up to you to build out a more structured plan around other keywords/terms to focus on for short and long tail search through content development and on-site optimization.
    The competitiveness of the 'target' keyword can also play a factor into the domains non-hyphenated domain and ranking performance. If the domain also has brand level keywords (something like coca-cola-softdrinks might be difficult (if not near impossible) to even begin to rank for due to the brand authority recognized online of the actually coca-cola company site). It really depends on the scenario.
    If your looking to build something long term, that could eventually be recognized, your best bet would be to build a site/domain out with a brand' style domain using a 'company brand name' and optimize it around that. It won't be exact match, and may take longer, but over time will build the trust using brand authority will yield better results.
    If you think about it, typing in something like your example above (business-broker-alabama) would be a real pain in the a#$, LOL. It would either be the non-hyphenated or a brand level domain optimized around the focus on your domain example which would yield a better user experience from the get-go.
    I'm thinking about re-doing my test/thesis over to determine if recent statements on exact match domains has changed in value. I think I feel inspired to do it again !! Time to start digging.
    My opinion would be either non-hyphenated or brand level domain building. Stay away from the hyphenated and spammy looking domains.
     
  11. williamk

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    I agree with aty1985. Hyphens are not cool, its better without them.