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*HELP* What should I talk about??

Discussion in 'UnGagged 2014 - Las Vegas' started by shoemoney, Feb 20, 2014.

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  1. shoemoney

    shoemoney Junior Member

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    I am excited about speaking at the conference this year. I have been doing internet marketing for over a decade and I see I have been mentioned a bit on there. There is a lot of my "guru" content on here but what a lot of people don't know is when I got started in the early 2000's a lot of my revenue (in addition to the NextPimp Famous Adsense Checks) came from spamming and jamming, churning and burning, it was so much fun back then. My wife is a doctor and I think I know more about pharmacology then her from all the pharmaceutical affiliate stuff I promoted. Those who were around back then know what I am talking about.

    If you have read my book you know that I have not been afraid to jump on something when I see it. The book covers a lot of... uh... *borderline* criminal stuff I did when I was a kid but the real thing is that I have never been afraid to blur the lines morally, ethically, or legally throughout my life in making money.

    The most exciting thing to me about this conference is I get to focus on sketchy stuff. I do so many white hat / corporate speaking engagements that DON'T allow me to touch on any of the black hat areas.

    Like I said there's a lot of posts on here about me but just to set the record. I will highlight the biggest hits to save you from reading a FRAT (f reading all that):


    • In 2003 I started a site that would become the largest mobile website in the world getting over 100k uniques per day. I ranked #1 for ringtones for years using the digital point co-op network (anyone remember that?). That site made me a multi millionaire overnight profiting thousands a day. The site got burnt down by google but after some creative approach with Google rose from the ashes to rank higher then ever.
    • In 2007 I launched AuctionAds an advertising network around the eBay API. Within 4 months the company was at 2M/m in gross revenue and on pace to do 50M the first year. I sold the company for an undisclosed amount, but what I can tell you is that it was enough to give each of my hourly employees over a million dollars in bonus money (I gave them enough to cover taxes and still have 1m in the bank). Sounds good but lets move along their was nothing sketchy about this company and other then the creative techniques to rapidly grow the company I doubt many blackhats would care.
    • In 2009ish I was spending over 90k A DAY on Facebook Ads in one of the most competitive affiliate niches there was. which at that time made me the largest advertiser on all of Facebook. This was awesome until some dickhead hater made a guest post on Techcrunch alleging what I was doing. I will not publicly confirm or deny any sketchy stuff was going on..
    • 2010 I created my own software as a service ShoeMoney Tools. Got upto 60k/mo in gross revenue then started to die off as API's were deprecated etc. Some people still use them but I stopped billing existing users in 2011 and didn't allow any new ones.
    • I currently have a new SAAS automated marketing platform targeting fortune 5000 companies that through beta is doing very well. But that is pretty much corporate out which you will find very boring.
    • Oh I was also Fast Company's Most Influential Person on the internet and made the cover of the magazine. Do you think I am the most influential person on the internet? =P

    Now during all of this time I have still been doing affiliate stuff. The money is just so good when you hit the right thing its like a hobby that happens to be able to make shittons of money.

    I have like a bazillion things I can talk about at the IRL show but I want to hear from you guys planning on going where you want me to focus on. And you keyboard warriors that just want to troll can blow me. Most of you can't rub together 2 nickels let alone afford a ticket to this event. And if you are legit and have some bone to pick with me then show up and lets talk about it.

    Items off the top of my head:


    • I have attended 3 undisclosed "black hat" meetings at Google before they stopped having SES in San Jose. Basically how it works is they invite a lot of black hats that they have trapped in the past but know they are always a step ahead. So I didn't know, and you wouldn't either, most of them there. These round table discussions kicked ass. But here is the fun thing. If we would give up one trick we are doing (and they promised not to take action on it for 6 months), they would answer any one question we had. Now I signed a NDA when I went to these meetings so I can't talk specifics that came out of them but lets say that I have a lot of insight on Google's internal tools and methodology on how they battle black hats. Think "white hats" have ever had this kind of insight? Ironic isn't it?
    • I discovered a trick way back in 2008 that I definitely do not want to publicly post about but its a way to take sites that are totally nuked out of Google and well do awesome stuff with them. Still works great today.
    • I was on Facebooks monetary board of advisors. I can talk about what they hate and ways to be perceived in their good graces for things you think they would never allow.
    • I think something though that might be of the biggest value is what I am currently doing on the side. And by the side I mean I have a team of 4 people that are always working on these "side" projects. Right now we are rocking it on Facebook, Google, and Yahoo using some *interesting* methods. I don't want to talk about that publicly here but happy to talk about it at the conference.
    • I dunno I could go on forever. Give me some ideas on what you want to know about. I have experimented with so much stuff in the last 10 years and continue to explore new revenue streams.
    • I could do a Q&A but thats kind of what this post is for. I would love to see a variety of questions to help me make the best talk possible for the audience.


    I only have 2 rules.



    1. I ONLY will talk from my own experiences. Please don't ask me about some theory on what X is planning on doing with X or what I think will happen with something. If I don't have personal experience on a topic I will just tell you that. I am not a big theory guy and I think its a waste of time for me and to attendees. I pride myself on NOT telling people what to do but sharing what I do and what I discovered. Obviously people can decide for themselves if they should explore going down that path.
    2. I will not OUT anyone in public. Well there are exceptions if I truly do not like them *cough* Joel Comm *cough*. Don't ask me specifically what [insert name or company here] is doing. This is probably a bar one on one conversation.


    Also just a note for those that have ever met me you know I am pretty social and usually found at the conference bar(s) so feel free to literally ask me anything or talk about whatever.


    I will just close with this - For me true happiness is helping others succeed. I want to help you succeed. I have a variety of expertise in many areas from arbitrage, lead generation, data monetization, subscription revenue, building your own company, managing teams, selling companies/websites, buying companies/websites, etc etc. Again like I said if I haven't been there and done that I will simply tell you that.

    *TIP* buy me Skinny Pirates (captain & diet coke) to get me to really open up.


    Please respond below on what you would like to hear me talk about. Thanks and looking forward to seeing you at the event!

    UPDATE: Checkout the http://ungagged.com/jeremy_schoemaker.html
     
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  2. Diamond Damien

    Diamond Damien Owner BlackHatWorld Staff Member Jr. VIP

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    Happy to announce Shoemoney as one of the keynotes at the BHW conference and our latest verified / enterprise BHW level account.

    Those great days of the early commercial internet - pharmaceutical affiliate sales used to be a great money earner for me as well. Still possible just harder to find the right people to work with. Maybe we could do a session on this very lucrative niche. It's where I made my money.
    What do you think BHW?
     
  3. Snckr

    Snckr BANNED BANNED

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    Oh my god, I'd be dying to know about what goes on in those "Google blackhat conferences".

    It's like trading secrets :D
     
  4. netmoney1

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    What about Skinny Pirates and lap dances? That combo tends to open virtually everything...

    Nice to see you here.
     
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  5. virtualpurity

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    I would also like to hear about the Google closed conferences lol but i would also like to hear about any current methods and tips that you use and still work to this day so we can walk out of the conference with something that we can use and implement in today`s online industry. Anyway looking forward to hearing you and all other speakers on the conference.

    Cheers
     
  6. Apricot

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    I'd like to know more about the black hat methods myself. The kind of stuff that's frowned upon and further into how and why these methods work.

    Would also be good to know where you get inspired to work out/find all the methods you've used in the past.
    I guess, like what gives you that "spark", that "light bulb moment".
     
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  7. DebtFreeMe

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    I'd like to know about some actionable stuff to move a site to the top and keep it there. I have to compete with a lot of churn and burn in one of my areas of interest and it leads to big swings in revenues.

    See ya there, I've already booked.
     
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  8. Rajthepositivelife

    Rajthepositivelife Elite Member Premium Member

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    Wow ! I would love to meet you at the conference !!

    Yeah, it would be great if you could share about those google closed conferences !
     
  9. The Old Warrior

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    Google closed conferences !!! damn
     
  10. TheUnborn

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    Really hope this will be recorded and shared here for members who are not attending the conference.
     
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  12. Aedan

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    tell us what works today and we will promise not to use it
     
  13. Tosmekop

    Tosmekop Supreme Member

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    Best. Quote. Ever.

    I'd like to ask you about something, however, it's not appropriate for BHW, so it's more of a 1-on-1 discussion. Learning more on the subject, each day, so I'm certain that by October, I should know more about what I intend to ask about, than what I intend to ask.

    Great 1st post, by the way.
    And that's an awesome, 1-star Blue!
     
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  14. IRL.info

    IRL.info Regular Member

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    It's all about being there in real life. Think of the value given to meeting the likes of Shoemoney etc etc etc etc. We want to see everyone in Vegas in November, think what an awesome buzz we are going to create. Moneymaking / brainstorming / networking party central. Early Bird ends in 11 days, looking forward to seeing you there Tosmekop.

     
  15. ID Internet Marketer

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    just read this thread, ok i'll try best to get vegas :)
     
  16. cygnusseo

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    See you there Shoe
     
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    Like how what the site is all about and how people can use it
     
  18. JoeMongan

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    It's really nice to know more about your mindset when it comes to making money online and I think the
    whole appreciation factor of the community has grown a lot for you Shoemoney. Hoping to attend this
    November and I am sure it will be a blast.

    -RK
     
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  19. Slim.

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    The more I read about this conference the more I feel I have to be there. Whether I can make it or not, best of luck with your talk. I am sure you will have a great audience.
     
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    I'm interested in the cookie stuffing/blackhat case with eBay (Shawn Hogan), and whether that's ever come up since you sold Auction Ads. Did you know about Shawn at the time you launched Auction Ads? I know you say you personally never did any dodgy stuff with AA, but are you worried at all that someone was doing something "dodgy" with it, and possibly implicate you in the process?

    There is actually a tonne that I'd love to ask you, I used to read your blog A LOT (Even way back when you did your first adwords/ppc adventure with mobile ringtones). But 1. Your blog doesn't have search anymore. 2. I can't actually make it to the conference, so I probably shouldn't ask for a lot :)
     
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