Have you ever had a 'Lucid Dream'

Yeah, I have them sometimes. But frankly I am not a big fan of them though.

Never had one, but it sounds great! Usually when I wake up I never even remember my dreams...

Yes, I have had dreams where I know I am in a dream, dreams while half-awake, woken up but unable to move or open my eyes, wet dreams ... pretty much the whole works.

No but I often hallucinate when I'm sick after I wake up.

A few notable ones were waking up in a opaque desert able to see my room but unable to get out. Another quiet recent one was seeing glowing symbols appear on the walls around me.

If I admit it there have been several hallucinations of creatures and ghosts and it's so vivid you cannot possibly tell the difference even knowing it can't be true.

I've also suffered from Sleep Paralysis which can be one of the scariest experience especially not knowing what it is because you can never be sure if someone is actually holding you down.

I had a dream once that I was walking around the front yard of my mom's house, and I walked over to the side yard area. I looked into the back yard behind the house, and saw my brother smoking a cigarette with our dog, but our dog was standing up on two legs and holding a cigarette with her paw. I think they might have been having a conversation, too. That was so wacky that I think I realized I was dreaming. I tried to walk around and do some stuff, but I think I got too excited and woke myself up.

CoyoteAssassin said:

Here's my take on my experience.


What you are most likely commenting on is sleep paralysis. Were you able to move and did you finally kick your self out of it but felt like it took a very long time?

This is something I can do every day if I want it to happen by sleeping on my back. I have managed to control it for the most part and take advantage of it but unless you experience it for yourself and truly know the feeling of not being able to move you will never realize how scary it is.

I've had it up to three times in one night. Imagine that your body is an empty bottle being filled with water. As the water rises, you can feel it in your body from your toes up to your head. This takes a few seconds and during this time, you can wake up and kick yourself out of it very easy. But, since you are sleepy, or maybe because you want to, you go ahead and let that feeling reach your head. At that point, it has taken over your body and you are paralyzed, can't talk or move but you can move to an OBE (out of body experience) with practice. There have been many times where I have moved my body around and done weird things and then when I snap out of it, I am in my normal position. Often, I can look down on my body.

I've trained myself to make a funny noise when I have this so that my wife can wake me up. I can hear her talk but sometimes she doesn't try hard enough so I just sit there and keep making the noise until she wakes me up. I am so confident that during this time I can see even with my eyes closed, that I have asked her to make sure my eyes are closed, and while I am breathing funny, hold up some fingers to see if I can tell her how many. She is so sleepy though, it doesn't cross her mind (as you can imagine).

Only one time have I seen something unnatural. I once saw a short bald naked unisex man. He was a translucent green color and the longer I looked at him, the more transparent he became. He was beside my dresser staring at me. It didn't look like the UFO's we see on TV. The strange part about this, is that years later, I was talking to a co-worker from Peru about dreams and she told me she had a friend who has sleep paralysis and that one night, he saw a green creature outside of his skylight. This was before I told her my story.

Do I wish I could not have them anymore?

No, not really. I've become pretty good about controlling them but like I said, unless you have had one, you will never understand the initial fear that takes over when you realize you can't move. It's unlike anything else I have ever experienced.

As for dreams (which are what many have mentioned above), I can remember most of my dreams and recite them action for action almost all the time. I can wait until that evening and tell my wife a 5-10 minute story about my dreams. Sometimes, they are the stuff of Hollywood so I write them up. It's not until then that I realize how many details and just how much I recall.

I'll post one below just in case anyone is interested in the amount of detail I can recall. This is from a recent dream.

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Thanks for sharing. You've outlined the sleep paralysis exactly as I feel it.

I liked your explanation of it being like a bottle filling up. I wouldn't have described it like that, but I know exactly, exactly, the feeling you're talking about. When it starts to hit, you know it's happening without a doubt. If you let it consume you, that's it - it takes over.

I find my heart rate elevates a lot as the "bottle is filling" and whether I want to continue or not, I force myself out of it due to fear. At the same time, I really want to experience it again. Mostly for the OBE and lucid dreaming that can come with it.

I just lay on my back, sometimes for 20 minutes or sometimes a bit longer and it generally comes along. So far I've pulled out every single time before it came into full affect.

As you said, you have not experienced fear until you have experienced sleep paralysis. It's simply like nothing I can describe. The fear is very intense initially, on your first one at least. Extremely scary. I am trying to calm myself down these days to try and actually have another one successfully. The first one was natural, and hence I was unprepared and had no idea of what sleep paralysis even was.

You guys have been warned though, so maybe it won't be so bad.

I know some people feel evil entities in the room with sleep paralysis. Luckily for me, I didn't. The feeling of absolutely no control of your body was enough. Certainly wouldn't want to add any evil entities into the room on top of it.

As a side note, around three weeks ago I was sending positive energy for my grandfather who recently has a stroke. This was at uni at like 3AM while studying for exams. No one else was there but me. I was standing up the whole time. Eventually when I felt I had a connection with my grandfather (I attempt to build a connection before sending any positive energy down) I would try and send good thoughts to him. The crazy thing is, I started having REM.

No it wasn't just me doing it, because as far as I'm concerned, it's impossible for me to move my eyes so randomly, energetically and quickly. Weird. Anyone else had something similar?

It's very real, though I'm not sure that it's quite as fantastical some product pushers make it seem (like the matrix or something).

I wouldn't spend money on a gadget - there's enough free information out there to train yourself to do it. I doubt that one can buy a shortcut.

Why is this in this forum? These people must be your family or something.

madoctopus said:

To those guys who get a very bad feeling and get frightened in a powerful way but without being able to really pinpoint it and it is not the usual type of nightmare fear but different, more deep. It is your choice if you go on or you pull out (probably you will pull out of it because it feels wrong and no-no zone) but if you do go on and you start to experience wacked stuff that feels super real and you feel endangered remember this:

You are in control no matter what they want and do and they can only hurt you if you allow it. If it gets very bad say to them "I am not allowing you to do that. You can not hurt me". Do not say it in a whiny begging voice but on a firm tone and know they can not do anything to you unless you invite them, accept it or they trick you into it.

I'm not going to explain who "they" are as I don't really know who they are or what they are. I can tell you as a fact however that they are real and not a product of your imagination and not a dream. What happens (at least from what I can figure out) is you travel somewhere in a different dimension/place/world where you meet "them". They are not necessarily the same type all the time, they are different in what they want, feel, etc. If you pay attention you will realize you can feel what they feel to a certain extent - if they're scared of you and defensive-agresive, if they came to you with a purpose or you went to them, etc.

You are likely to have the natural tendency to go either in a nice place with nice beings where you feel awesome or in a bad place with beings that want to hurt you or they're scared of you and aggressive or anyway unpleasant to be there. Neutral places are a matter of you controlling your fear and them controlling their fear and neither of you having an agenda, thoughts or feelings which is bad for the other.

And to those who think i'm full of hippie shit, besides the fact that i know they are real beyond any doubt (it cant be explained only felt), after one "dream" where one of them grabbed my hand and tried to pull me down i had that hand and the entire arm almost completely paralyzed for the whole day after i woke up.

Also you may want to check out Paul McKenna's vids on youtube where he talks about the (good/nice) beings he met on DMT (dimetyltriptomine) trips. Seems DMT activates certain areas in the brain which allow us to perceive other dimensions. DMT gets produced at peak rates 2 times in the average person's life - when he is born and when he dies.

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Share more. Very interesting stuff. I know a fair bit about DMT but more interested about your knowledge of "them".

Can you explain as best as possible how you know they are real and not just imagination? I'd love to think our experience are real, in some plane and not just imaginative.

krzysiekz said:

I just lay on my back, sometimes for 20 minutes or sometimes a bit longer and it generally comes along. So far I've pulled out every single time before it came into full affect.

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What do you think about? What do you do? Do you stay still and not move for 20 minutes on your back?

I've been laying in bed and not moving for a maximum of 2 hours before I got bored and ended up sleeping but was never able to feel anything like you guys have described above. lol

CliffordBrown01 said:

It's very real, though I'm not sure that it's quite as fantastical some product pushers make it seem (like the matrix or something).

I wouldn't spend money on a gadget - there's enough free information out there to train yourself to do it. I doubt that one can buy a shortcut.

Why is this in this forum? These people must be your family or something.

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You'll find that beyond our eagerness to create wealth here are BHW, we're actually quite an interesting and open minded bunch - in general.

The more time I spend on here, the more I seem to relate to the people here. I'm very happy this thread was posted, have already learned things about dreaming and this is meant to be a marketing forum.

Basically, I love BHW

CliffordBrown01 said:

Why is this in this forum? These people must be your family or something.

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Once you better grasp the concept of "community", you will understand why this and other non-money making treads are on BHW.

Until then, enjoy your time and come back, 'ya hear!

ShadeDream said:

What do you think about? What do you do? Do you stay still and not move for 20 minutes on your back?

I've been laying in bed and not moving for a maximum of 2 hours before I got bored and ended up sleeping but was never able to feel anything like you guys have described above. lol

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I can see where you're coming from. Usually for me it happens every time I want it to happen, but not necessarily within the 20 minutes.

Sometimes it has taken a lot longer. Other time, 20 or 30 minutes is enough to feel it try and take over my body.

I'm of the belief you can make it happen whether you're on your back or not. However, I've only ever tried it on my back so far.

My recommendation is: don't try and do it when you've stayed up late and are just going to bed because you're super tired. For me, that never ends up working.

If I want it to happen, I don't allow myself to only go to sleep when I'm dead tired - I go a little earlier. Helps a lot with concentration and staying awake rather than dozing off.

When I am trying to make it happen, I try to generally clear my mind. However, for me thats hard and I still end up thinking about random things. The key is, at least from what I can see, to just keep very still.

I have my eyes closed the whole time, and my eyes move around while closed - not intentionally, but I do move them accidentally etc - and that's pretty much it. I don't respond to any itches or uncomfortable feelings. I just remain in that spot and that position for however long it takes.

Eventually my mind clears itself. After some further time, and It feels almost instantaneous when it hits, I get a huge feeling over my body. Huge as in, it's as if someone flicks a switch, and all of a sudden "the bottle begins to fill". There's no gradualness about it for me, in the transition. It just goes from laying still, to all of a sudden starting to fill up my body.

I get to this point almost every time I try.

Then as it fills my body, I get exponentially frightened and end up pulling out

It happens very easy for me. I toss and turn a lot and I can be in bed very tired from having been up for many hours and it happens within 5 minutes or I can be in bed and it happen later in the night.

I never have to try to make it happen. I just know that if I sleep on my back, it will happen. So instead, I sleep on my belly or side. It can still happen, but not as often.

In most cases I no longer kick out of it. Instead, I enter into it and either stay, kick my self out, of make the funny noise long enough for my wife to hear me and wake me up.

CoyoteAssassin said:

It happens very easy for me. I toss and turn a lot and I can be in bed very tired from having been up for many hours and it happens within 5 minutes or I can be in bed and it happen later in the night.

I never have to try to make it happen. I just know that if I sleep on my back, it will happen. So instead, I sleep on my belly or side. It can still happen, but not as often.

In most cases I no longer kick out of it. Instead, I enter into it and either stay, kick my self out, of make the funny noise long enough for my wife to hear me and wake me up.

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If you don't mind me asking, why do you let yourself get into it, only to attempt to get woken by your wife?

Do you try and have an OBE or lucid dreams while in the state? Have you found it to be effective?

While I was in college I experimented with polyphasic sleep for a few months. I'd read about Buckminster fuller's experiments in "dymaxion sleep" and experiments done by Dr. Claudio Stampi. The idea is that if you increase the frequency that you sleep, and keep the intervals between sessions of sleep very consistent, you would require vastly smaller durations of sleep overall. I decide to try sleeping 30 minutes every six hours. The first week was very unpleasant. I used a zeo sleep manager to record my sleep states and found that after a week I started to go through all the stages of sleep (i.e. slow-wave, REM, ect.) and was feeling refreshed after each session of sleep. Forunately I no longer experienced the symptoms of sleep deprivation after that initial week. Each 30 minute nap would feel like I'd slept for hours.

One thing I didn't expect during this was experiencing lucid dreaming, and the ability to control my dreams directly. It's actually not something I was overly knowledgeable on, although I had experienced a couple lucid dreams in the past. There's apparently an entire community online who attempt to experience lucid dreaming through polyphasic sleeping, although I can't remember what it's called, I'd have to look it up.

Honestly, between having 22 hours awake per day and having lucid dreams I had very few reasons to stop. The thing is, it became so damn awkward. "Sorry, I can't go to lunch, I have a nap coming up." "Sorry, I can't party, it's almost nap time!" Now that I'm out of college and I'm making some money online, I'd actually be inclined towards going back to polyphasic sleep.

My question still...

What are the benefits if any of these dreams? Health,mental? or is it just the fun aspect of it?

I always kick myself out before shit gets crazy. It has happened a few times, but naturally every time without trying. The second to last time, I beat the shit out of some fucking demon thing and woke up with my hand hurting like crazy.

Unlikely it has any additional health benefits. It still occurs during REM sleep before entering SWS. Same as normal dreams. It's just fun controlling and better remembering dreams.

krzysiekz said:

My recommendation is: don't try and do it when you've stayed up late and are just going to bed because you're super tired. For me, that never ends up working.

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I must admit that my sleeping patterns are a real mess and I usually go to sleep when I'm dead tired so I guess I will first try and fix this and then try again. Thanks!

I'm a disciplined lucid dreamer. I realize in most of my dreams that I am dreaming.

I keep a journal every day. You will start out with very little detail. However, I have dreams that take up 3-4 pages of my notebook. This is the main source of helping your mind differentiate between dreams and reality. I believe dreams are a source of enlightenment in your waking life. I'm also a prophetic dreamer, meaning I dream about things sometimes to exact detail, or metaphorically; then witness these events in my waking life.

Like someone else stated sometimes it's jut during the end of a dream. Other times I'm in full control of the dream, especially my violent ones. I realize it's too violent for my waking life then I take action in the dream. Sometimes I've had odd uncontrollable lucid dreams, I know I'm dreaming however I'm not in control in which I stabbed someone about 23 times, stuck it in his spine, then twisted it.

krzysiekz said:

Share more. Very interesting stuff. I know a fair bit about DMT but more interested about your knowledge of "them".

Can you explain as best as possible how you know they are real and not just imagination? I'd love to think our experience are real, in some plane and not just imaginative.

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Well i have a whole history with stuff like this and if i'd tell the whole story maybe would make more sense but i wont. The actual feeling they are real can not be explained logically. You just know, like you know you "are". Also not always and not all are real, sometimes imagination may play a role. But other times it is very clear they are real. Also they are many types of them and most have nothing to do with you. They don't care about you probably don't even perceive you being there but you can feel them. If you happen to "break into" their reality though you may scare the shit out of them and they would become very scared and defensive. My first experience where i knew they were real was like this. First i thought they were evil because they were very ugly and mean towards me. Then I realized it was just their reaction to me being there because in a way i was basically like a ghost appearing in front of them. How would you behave and feel if right now as you sit in your chair reading this, near you out of the blue a being that is not human and looks very different than you - out of this world - appears? Would scare the shit out of you and you'd be defensive-aggressive towards it.

There are more experiences like that. Most that are deeper happen during sleep or between awake-sleep transition. Probably because my mind is more relaxed, not distracted and doesn't think of real-world problems. I can perceive everything while awake too but is just fuzzy. Is not like i go somewhere particularly or get in a trance or something like that. Is continuous but I just don't focus on that sensory system most of the time. Is like when the radio is playing but you're working. You do hear the song but you don't really think about it or pay attention to it.

Also that "world/universe/dimension" is not in another place. It is in this very same place where we exist but it is simply on a different frequency. Like multiple radio broadcasts exist in the same place but you only tune in on one depending on what frequency you set the radio. So basically, "they" are right among us all the time, we are all mingled, we just don't feel each other most of the time and we do not (have no reason to) interact.

Also, while I was a skeptic, never believed in angels, demons, god, other beings, other dimensions, etc and all this sort of stuff, I had to change that when I stated to experience this stuff since it was real. And while to you or somebody else it may be a matter of weather you believe it or not for me is undeniable.

I've seen angels once. Somebody who has more developed abilities than me that i met at some point showed them to me. Basically there's a hierarchy like levels/layers and each of us is at a certain level (we can move up-down within a range by ourselves) and we can only see around that level but not too high and not to lower from there (at least that's how i understand it). Since I am not high enough to see the angels this guy had to show them to me. Don't know how to do it, he just did something at a "spirit level" and i felt a need to look up and saw the angels there for a second. Very vividly enough. Strangely none of them had wings as far as I can tell. They are kinda layered on levels/hierarchies too. I could only see very low levels. Were very busy going around like we do in society. Each one of them had something to do. One of them I remember had a shiny body armor like medieval amours but un-naturally shiny in a very nice way like made of some material that i've never seen (looked like gold but the shining was way unusual). Anyway only lasted a second that's all I can remember. Also they could be anything but they do match the description of angels perfectly and the guy said they're angels. Just in case you'd be tempted like me to ask yourself but what if they're aliens? lol

Also met a demon one. Came to me with a purpose and he was super fucking powerful. Like I thought i'm powerful be he was way more powerful than me and I trully felt endangered then, especially that i knew he came to do something to me. Basically I felt I was about to be crushed by him. Happily I "Screamed" for help immediately and I was given a thought that allowed me to feel powerful so then he couldn't do anything to me so he just gave me a message and left. I saw him very very well. He was massive (like compared to my body (1.80m, 80kg) he was about 3.5-4m and 200kg (but keep in mind sizes there are kinda relative in a way i can't explain - like you can become bigger or smaller compared to something else as you wish). Had dark almost black skin but not like africans but like wet mud, with a tint of green like mud that contains decomposed vegetation. Big boney head. I think he had ears a bit pointy. Almost no nose - kinda like a skull nose. Basically very small flat nose. Dark eyes that didn't looked like ours (cant remember well how they looked). It resembled quite a bit with the photo below but the ears were different and he had no horns. Also the neck was not as thick as in the photo. I also think (might be wrong and mix with imagination here though) he had hands like claws - big nails like claws and might have had 3 or 4 fingers not 5.





While for others it is simple to just think i need professional help or is a matter of wether they believe or not, I just know because I experienced it. Also there's no doubt as it passes even the most analytical/logical inspection since it transcended that "dimension" and into this world. What do I mean by that? Well, i basically mean stuff I can do/feel in that dimension has an effect on this dimension. Don't want to tell what it is but it transcends into this reality with no possibility to doubt it, just like it would be the case with correctly doing remote viewing (which some can), mind reading (which some can), telekinesis (which some can), setting on fire a piece of paper (which some can). I can't really controll it well at will. Only once i happened at random and lasted an entire day. I can kinda do it but just partially - kinda like that day being able to have the sight of an eagle and now I can only see 1m in front of me.

Hope that helps you in any way or gives you enough answers and new questions.