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Have i done the Keywordsearch right?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by nufan, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. nufan

    nufan Newbie

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    Hi Guys,

    this is my first Post on BHW :).
    Actually I do not make Money online, i've tried some different things, but nothing kept working for me :(.

    Now I want to start up a Micro-Niche Site, so I spent all the Night to do Keywordresearch through Google.

    After all I've found 4 Keywords which I want to use for my MNS.
    My Plan was to setup a MNS which 4 Pages and each Page should contain an Article about 1 of the four Keywords.
    The Article will be about 500-600 Words large.

    My Keywords all are Keyphrases, the largest contains 4 Words.
    Each of the Keywords have between 2400 and 3700 searches per Months and when I type in Google "My Keyphrase" (with "") I do not have more than 15000 Competitors.

    Is that o.k., or do I need more or maybe better Keywords?

    Please help me gettin on the right Way :D
     
  2. littleg2008

    littleg2008 Senior Member

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    I think its actually a pretty good thing for you to start with to be honest.

    Your search terms are not bringing in a lot of searches per month which other people might tell you is a big problem with your plan.

    But personally i think its best you start with these lower phrases first. They will be easier to rank on page 1 for and when that happens it shall give you confidence to repeat. Thats all what internet marketing is my friend. Its all about doing something and knowing that what you have done works. Then you have confidence and know you can do it more

    Good luck
     
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  3. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    I roughly agree. But 3700 max a month is barely 125 a day - and that's if you rank no1 and catch all of them.

    If you've tried IM before (and you have), but struggled, then the thing that will bring you most confidence is actually making money.

    If these keywords are to sell high ticket price products - ones where you are likely to make over $50 per action, then this is ok. One or two sales a month and that's a very fine website

    If it's just for a few cents adsense, then you'll struggle. Maybe a dollar or two a month.

    I look for low competition but I rate that at 12,000 searches MINIMUM (but under 75,000)

    The lower the first number is, then the more I'm looking to make per action/sale.

    I sell a lot of a particular niche product with Amazon

    The views aren't massive in each niche site (1000 a month MAX - some under 300) but the price range from $1800 to $4500 (so one sale can bring $300+) and the sites are exact product names (they are all subdomains of a good "buying" URL)

    This visitor profile would be a complete waste of time for adsense alone and 15 - 30 cents a click. Each site might make a dollar or two a month

    But for $100-$300 a sale, then one sale per site every 3 months (and having 30+ sites in this niche) works a treat.

    Scritty

    [EDIT] If you are looking to mass produce sites like this, then don't be tempted to spend thousands of "magic" site maker crap for 1-2 thousand bucks. They are complete crap, and fill your site with gibberish articles that DO NOT RANK at all.





    It took me three days to make 30 sites (8 hours a day) the secret is to do it in batches.
    1. Get all keyword
    2. Get all associated keywords
    3. Set up all 30 Subdomains
    4. Install CMS to all 30
    5. Add any other stuff to all
    All the above should take no more than 4 hours for 30 domains with decent tools


    Write a unique (ie totally unique) 500 word front page (which you can keep roughly the same for ALL 30 - they are all on the same domain remember)

    Get the manufactueres spec of the item (the most detailed version you can find)

    Get a review from amazon or wherever for each product and spin the ass off it.

    Set up site with the amazon widgets,gfx or whatever of the tools you want to use from your affiliate

    That's the end of day 1

    Day 2 add content to all your sites. Configure them, test them (always test them. Finding you have a whole batch of sites where the links haven't worked for months is a real sickener - when you "batch" process sites it's a simple error to make - i've done it more than once DOH)

    End of day 2

    Day 3 submit, link pr. Get your toolbox open and get cracking. The more automated the toolbox the better. Xrumer means you can set up all 30 jobs in about 2 hours then go to bed. Something like Nuke will take most of the day. Individual tools that do a decent job and it might stretch into a fourth day of linkbuilding. No tools - total WH - and you will struggle to ever get the traffic you need with this method of working.

    Course you could do the prep and pay someone here to do 30 "Xrumer blasts" for you for a couple of hundred bucks.

    3-4 days. 30 sites. repeat over and over again. If something doesn't work change it

    Scritty
     
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  4. nice1

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    3700is just over 100 a day - so i dont think this is wotht it imho - unless you have cpa's with free stuff so those 100 convert - but conversions are usally at 3-4 % just for an action and lower still for a sale etc -- just saying you need a lot of traffic
     
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  5. nufan

    nufan Newbie

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    Hi Guys,

    thank you for all the Answers :).
    I've decided that my Keywords were just to weak, because they were in a Niche I can not beat as beginner.
    So therefor I've made me a new businessplan which will be way better i hope.

    To Scritty: (I can't make this emailsymbol... thanks to the bhw-admins)

    Yes my Plan was to rinse and repeat with those Sites.
    Also my Plan was to get Cash through Sales, but I didn't thought about promoting so expensive Products, but it sounds like a good idea for me.
    Actually I hope to get at least 1$/Day/Site, is this realistic?

    I think I will give your Method a try.
    So my actual Plan is to get a "buying"-domain, then search after 5-6 high paying Productniches on Amazon (e.g. Laptops or so).
    After i got my Niches I will search for again 5-6 Products on each Niche and then again start the Keywordresearch, but this time I will search for Keywords with at least 15.000 searches per month.
    After I've got my Keywords (I think about to take 4 KW per Product), I will write the unique Content, and then finally set up the subdomains, install wordpress and upload everything on my webspace.


    Or should I not get a "buying" domain, but search for about 30-40 Micro Niches, get a own domain for each Niche, and then try to make my money through CPA?

    I think this doesn't sounds bad.
    100 Visitors per Day, 3-4% fills out a form.
    Thats about $4,5-$6 per Day on an emailform which pays $1,5.
    Or about $135-$180 per Month per Site.
    I think thats sounds like a charm, when I multiply this with my (theoretical) 30 Sites, thats than about $4050-$5400 per Month.
    Think thats not bad for the beginning... or have I made the math wrong oO?
     
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    DIAPORDIA Registered Member

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    do CPA's really do pay minimum $1 per survey, email?
     
  7. chockomonkey

    chockomonkey Regular Member

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    Yea i see email submit offers all the time for like 1.50
     
  8. Flurbuff

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    I would say ~3k searches monthly is worthwhile IF you can pump out site after site without a lot of trouble or work. Typically when I've done sites like this I get the exact keyword domain with org net or com. Almost always with such low competition it lands immediately in the #5-20 search spot. So it needs minimal backlink work. But as others have said these will not be huge money makers. The goal would be to have dozens then hundreds of them.
     
  9. nufan

    nufan Newbie

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    Do you mean 3k searches are enough for CPA-Sites or for Affiliate/Adsense Sites?
    I still cant decide how to start... CPA or Affiliate?
    I think I would start with CPA because in my opinion it is easier to monetize the traffic... is this correct, or a mistake?

    And why would you prefer this method only if I can blast out those sites without much trouble or work??
    This is my first really IM-Project, so I think it will be a lot of work and I will surely run into a lot of trouble :D
    But this is normal in the beginnig, isn't it?
    I think I will have much work and also trouble with every IM-Method... just because it is the first time for me.
    But of all the trouble I also will learn alot :).
     
  10. skrimpy

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    I think for a CPA site giving a higher payout might work but I don't think that's enough searches for an Adsense/Affiliate site. Payouts per lead may be good - but affiliate conversions don't tend to be real high (tho if you got one sale a day w/ 100 visitors you'd be doing well w/ most info product affiliate commissions). Adsense payouts tend to be pennies, so check your niche and what advertisers are paying.
     
  11. nufan

    nufan Newbie

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    Hey Guys,

    when I was searching for MNS-Keywords i think i've found some good ones for a bigger site and tryed to concentrate on this, because I think its much easier for a beginner to setup one site than 30 or more.

    So what ive done now, was to search 10 Mainkeywords, which the top 3 have the following results on google keywordsearch:

    1. 110.000 searches and 43.000 competition when i type "keyword"

    2. 90.000 searches and 54.000 competition

    3. 75.000 searches and just 646 (!!!!) in competition



    Should i change my #1 Keyword with #3 because #3 got so less competition?
    For each mainkeyword I got about 5 subkeywords, which I would use on article writing.
    For each of the ten keywords i've checked the PR-Rank of the top 3 Sites on google and no one has a higher than 3.

    Are this eneough Keywords for starting to set up a wordpress blog or should i do more research?
    And is the research i've done correct, or have i done any mistakes??
     
  12. spiider

    spiider Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    yeah i think you have got good keywords for starting. and about research its a endless road. and you have done a great job just go ahead with it.
     
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    You finally made it... Good list of keyword and doesn't matter if you replace #1 with #3 because you are already making different pages for every keyword... Your first phase is done and now you should move to your next phase "development"....

    Buy domain name and start putting content, optimize it with SEO and earning point of view... Once it's done then move to promotion phase... With such low competition you are gonna rank very soon and money will start coming... Good Luck :)
     
  14. nufan

    nufan Newbie

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    Thanks for the Answers... ive moved now on to the next phase and started developing my site... but ive bought a domain which contains the two words of my #3 Keyword, because #1 and 2 were already given to another guy (but are not used).

    My Question now is the following:

    I want to write at least 10 articles (1 per keyword) which should contain about 500-600 words... how much times should i use my keyword in the articles... i read about a keyword densitiy about 3%... so in an 500word article i should use my keyword 15 times, is that right?
    And can i use also some of my other keywords in the different articles, or just 1 keyword per article??

    thx for the help :)