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Have I been Too Aggresive With Scrapebox?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by johnny_wadd, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. johnny_wadd

    johnny_wadd Registered Member

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    Set up a site a few months ago and have been doing random scrapebox blasts on it a few times a week when the urge took me. The blasts have ranged from 200 up to 3,000 at a time. My comments were very well spun original stuff. I even had lots of slightly different comments - but for the same purpose related to my affiliate product. Saw my site climb in Google 27 to 18 - 13 and then last night checked it and it was 61st place!

    What's the next move? Carry on doing controlled blasts and promotions or leave it alone? I feel like a lot of hard work has gone down the pan, luckily for me it;s a web 2.0 site. Will I recover? What's the next move?

    Cheers in advance.
     
  2. FuryKyle

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    It's never good relying only on spammy SB blasts to rank your site. Try diversifying your links, that should bring things back to where they were.
     
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    i really wouldnt use scrapebox to blast your site at all tbh
     
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    Create some buffer sites (eg. web 2.0 properties) between your main site and some shady blasts.
    D.
     
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    You should have strategy, spamming leads to nowhere. Try some backlinks structure.
     
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    Keep going and constantly increase the blasts...

    Link velocity counts
    Anchor variation counts
    Keep things under the radar
    Do not try to optimize your comments since 2-3 sentence on a spammed blog will not make the difference, but a general, well writhed can fool an admin and approve it.
    Do not brutally react to rank changes.
    Be ready for big movements.... but as I said do not react brutally...

    And also diversify your links....

    But before that be sure that you know how to use SB and have the resources , technical ones, to get the best of it.

    But the best advice I can give you is....
    Make a test... see how things works...
     
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    Why on earth would you want to scrap your way to the first pages? This ain't good. You must start looking at other positive link building activities. Like the last post says, anchor variation and link velocity counts.
     
  8. johnny_wadd

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    Thanks for the replies. I'm going to sit down and review my stratedgy.

    1.Make notes of blasts and amounts.
    2.Review the sites I'm blasting to. Stick to higher pr ranked sites.
    3.Review my comment, although not wanting to blow my own trumpet my comment writing + heavily spun comments have the following characteristics... Relevance to sites and niches, decent length, I try to add value to my comments by suggesting methods and techniques people can use for the subjects I'm commenting on. Not just the usual... great site + myspammylink.com like I've seen all over the net.

    Scrapebox is a beast, I will only let it off its lead when I'm in full control of it in the future. Though I'm always trying to study it and learn more about it. It's a fascinating tool with so many uses.

    Cheers for the good replies people.
     
  9. assphuck

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    Scrapebox produces 98%+ nofollow links. While Scrapebox has its purpose, relying on it as a source of producing links to your $ site is severely flawed. Even if by some chance you do rank a site with it, in the case of weak niches, chances are a Google update will take out the site in the next update with an extended penalty.

    Also, spending time writing great comments is not the best use of time IMO. Most of your comments that stick will be on pages that also promote viagra, payday loans, etc. Scrapebox's best use is blasting tiered links, where domain authority prevents negative impacts from such links.
     
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  10. GiorgioB

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    Exactly as assphuck says.. you'd better create some web2.0s pointing to your money site, maybe build some links pointing to those, and then pligg/wiki/scrapebox the shit out of those.. your current strategy probably woould have worked 3-4 years ago but not now.

    Also, tbh don't worry about making good comments.. I get lots of spam on my sites and I can smell SB comments from a mile away even if they are well structured and spun.
     
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    Are you filtering the list,doing a dummy site run first and using only found links then we go into pr filtering obl filtering.I doubt you're doing any of those and I do that for the 3rd tier.
    Am I correct in assuming your site is a web 2 itself?

    If you are blasting with no filtering all you'll get is a vast majority of PRn\a links,pretty much worthless imo.
     
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    How many of you did register a new domain, build an website, with all the on-site SEO and then try to eank it for a low competition kw just using SB, second get to a more difficult one... and see what happen?.. How many did run this test?

    How many did think to use SB blasts to diversify your anchor text...?

    Take your main kw... use SB to scrape g for that KW, do a level 4 scrape, get the 1000-200 or more kw that you find and save them in a file "kw".

    Do a harvest with site: operator for your website or take all the url if you have them and then save them in a file "website"

    Take your list and keep only 2-3 url for each domain and save it in a file called "blog list"

    And then load SB with "kw" / "website" / "blog list" and hit run.....

    What you will get? You will get backlinks with a great variety of anchor text but all related to your main kw on many websites....

    While the other type of backlinks bring you greater seo score to your main kw... this will give you the diversity that you need, and lower the over seo optimaze flag on your high value kw.
     
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    You can do a few blog comments to your money site as long as they are high quality, low obl, etc... generally most people dont. Manual comments might be best in that situation. Definitely research link velocity, you want a steady flow of links, and need a steady flow of links once you have begun. Also, blog comments are just 1 type of link, that looks completely unnatural, you need to diversify your links asap, add some bookmarks, web 2.0's, high pr article sites, etc...
     
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    Terrible
     
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    Scrapbox is a tool to be used properly and not get all spam happy with. It can either hurt or help your site depending
    on how you use it. Allot of people of course use it for data mining more than anything.

    Cheers,
    Unclemike
     
  16. johnny_wadd

    johnny_wadd Registered Member

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    Thanks for all the good info guys. I was only blasting a web 2.0 site. You've all given me a lot to think about in regards to my SB usage. I'm copying and pasting your posts into a file in order to create my own campaign based upon the info provided.