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i lose 300 usd in it

I've said it before and got flamed, even in the jr vip section, about being a paypal fanboy. The problem isn't with paypal. It is with the sheer number of scammers using it and using stolen CC details online to buy digital products. You think paypal is bad? Give plimus a go and accept credit card payments directly via plimus for a digital product. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how much worse and how much fraud is also committed through plimus via fraudulent CC purchases.

creztor said:

I've said it before and got flamed, even in the jr vip section, about being a paypal fanboy. The problem isn't with paypal. It is with the sheer number of scammers using it and using stolen CC details online to buy digital products. You think paypal is bad? Give plimus a go and accept credit card payments directly via plimus for a digital product. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how much worse and how much fraud is also committed through plimus via fraudulent CC purchases.

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I understand there are a few scammers, but you apparently have no idea to the extent of their "limitations". I did absolutely nothing to get my account limited, and now they're holding my money (which is accumulating interest for them) for 6 months and there is nothing I can do about it.

Even before I started with paypal I had heard about sellers from ebay having the same problem. This has GOT to be because there is something wrong with paypal. I did NOTHING wrong, and what makes it worse is they refuse to tell me why!

What BS ..I feel for you bro. . . . . ..I also got an account limited for '3rd part access'.. . . . ..dunno wassup with paypal ..what highly complex algorithms do they apply that calls for limitation .. ?

Creztor mate. . . . . . . .Hate to say it.. but when paypal limits one day would be as unexpected to you as it is to us..

I think you will find that there aren't just a "few" scammers using paypal Sell a digital product online and you will realize how many there are. If his account was 100% legit and for those who have 100% legit accounts and haven't violated Paypal's TOS by selling/doing something they don't permit, then yes, I feel for you guys and it is sad to hear they limited your account. You may want to look at one of the many other payment processors out there such as plimus, regnow and a few more which will be more than happy to take your WH business.

Damn, fuck this. I transferred the $300 i had in the paypal to my bank account , on account of this being like the 10th paypal related thread today

They simply suck...
People earning money with hardwork, and they rob it by canceling / limiting accounts

Never had a problem with PP.
Shit! I've jinxed myself...

did you at anytime receive money from EPN into that account?

We should seriously have an "I hate GayPal" forum, to keep this constant whining about a shitty, money Laundering, Scamming, Limit legit/Licensed business owners for no apparent reason, "Company".

creztor said:

I think you will find that there aren't just a "few" scammers using paypal Sell a digital product online and you will realize how many there are. If his account was 100% legit and for those who have 100% legit accounts and haven't violated Paypal's TOS by selling/doing something they don't permit, then yes, I feel for you guys and it is sad to hear they limited your account. You may want to look at one of the many other payment processors out there such as plimus, regnow and a few more which will be more than happy to take your WH business.

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Bahh, There's TONS of "Legit" business owners I've met over the years, that have had their GayPal accts. limited for NO reason. Re-Read your Terms Of Service Bro, they can and Will limit your account at some point for NO apparent reason.

A Real Bank/Merchant Account, does NOT limit access or hold funds for No Good reason. SO the "There's Tons Of scammers using GayPal" doesn't hold water. They're Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, that are in the business of taking peoples money, and getting interest on that money from their "Real" bank accounts.

If scammers are the problem, then they should re-arrange their business model, and do a better filtering job for new members. Instead of making honest business owners suffer for their own stupidity.

Knoxgates said:

i m seeing 5 thread about paypal today. Seriously they are laundering our money.

edit time to switch to someother payment processor like webmoney

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Webmoney is incredible hard to use for non russians, some large exchangers don't even talk to you if you can't answer in russian.

One global payment processor is Libertyreserve, I use them for Cloakfish.
Compared to paypal they have pro's and con's:

A BIG pro for the seller: once you received money it is yours, there is no way to lose it again even if it was stolen!
You can receive money and send money through LR through tiny fees.
Higher fees apply when you want to get the money on your bank account or on the LR account from your bank, that works through exchanger companies.
I have to pay about 6% when I actually want to receive money.

If you consider paypal you pay 3-4% on the amount + optional 2-3% on conversion + losses from scam and chargebacks.

It is harder to use for most people but I relaly like it.
+ They do not want any personal info verification, you can be anonymous.

cnwelf said:

The funds in your account will be held for 180 days, due to the risk of
outstanding chargebacks and complaints. After 180 days, any remaining funds will be available to you for withdrawal.


i lose 300 usd in it

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Sorry for you loss, braddah. 6 months is a long time! Jeez, they're probably hoping you'll forget about it.

What sucks is that PayPal is like an institution...like what Ebay is to online auctions.

Sorry to hear of your issues. I always thought Paypal was like a robot, human less, whenever I filed a dispute over a piece of intangible crap I bought even if it was a scam I would lose. However I have a dispute over a scammer and called them up - they were great, very helpful in fact.

So have you given them a call you may be able to get more info not sure where you are

Toll Free for Business/Premier, USA & Canada: 1-888-221-1161 / 1-888-204-4481

Personal Accounts: 1-402-935-2050

PayPal UK: 0870 7307 191

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when you email them you will never find a solution.
I think they are operated by talented and well trained monkeys.
As monkeys are unable to speak by voice they use a few underpaid and unhappy human guys on phone.
After all your chances on phone are better than by mail because of this.

I've never had an issue with paypal.... yet. -_-

Another gaypal victim...well cheers and welcome to the club!

Knoxgates said:

i m seeing 5 thread about paypal today. Seriously they are laundering our money.

edit time to switch to someother payment processor like webmoney

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wow. 5 threads.

my god.

i just sent money 5 time that today to my parters
one for 15 usd
one for 30 usd
one for 130 usd
one for 25 usd
and 70 usd

i buy it form BHW. and it was verified?. USA paypal
businses accounts. not personal accounts
and i bought since end of 2008


They simply suck...
People earning money with hardwork, and they rob it by canceling / limiting accounts.


Libertyreserve, but my parter didnot use it.that is problem.


like a robot, human less

I didnot get bad money or stolen credit card .just sent money too fast.

As monkeys are unable to speak by voice they use a few underpaid and unhappy human guys on phone.
After all your chances on phone are better than by mail because of this.


i agree. i call them .bad serice.




I agree.

paypalsucks.com is exactly that. They have some sad stories there

hawke said:

We should seriously have an "I hate GayPal" forum, to keep this constant whining about a shitty, money Laundering, Scamming, Limit legit/Licensed business owners for no apparent reason, "Company".

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