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Has Google won?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by sirtinny2178, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. sirtinny2178

    sirtinny2178 Newbie

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    I must admit that I am a little disappointed with a few of the posts on this blog on a whole.
    For a black hat forum there seems to be an awful lot of "build quality content" and "natural linking"
    There seems to be less ways to circumvent google's master plan.

    Has Google one or what is the best focus to artificially bump up the rankings?
    Link wheels seem to have folded, but link pyramids are still good?

    Or is the only true black hat now down to negative SEO?
     
  2. JournoNick

    JournoNick Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    *Registered just to ask that question without any contributions.
     
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    prab1996 Elite Member

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    Yep, google won.

    -=-
     
  4. Peter Ngo

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    SEO is dead mate. Google now install microchip in everyone's ass to know what they are searching for, time to move on to something else.
     
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  5. sirtinny2178

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    I will admit I am new here - certainly not saying that I have the answers. Just trying to learn whether there are any "non-approved" methods. I didnt join to ask that question - I joined to learn about what link building methods circumvent googles algorithms. Many people in my industry use link wheels to build rep and they don't seem to be penalized yet.

    Not having a go at all JournoNick just trying to see if Blackhat is still effective after panda, penguin and hummingbird.
     
  6. pxoxrxn

    pxoxrxn Supreme Member

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    SEO is dead and Google has won. But its not all bad news, McDonalds is hiring middled aged men now, so you'll be okay.
     
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    Yes it is a blackhat forum no doubt as google long ago stated once you build a link to your site, be it "quality content" or "natural linking" it will be blackhat :)

    So yes you are in a right forum after all.
     
  8. JournoNick

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    Yep! If you have control over a link, then you're breaking Googles ToS and you're a big bad blackhat SEO. If you want whitehat SEO, then go to marketing school and learn public relations.
     
  9. sirtinny2178

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    Wow. Seems I Pissed a few people off with the question.
    We are doing ok - I just see websites ranking above us with lower quality sites and using techniques that I keep reading google have cottoned on to. Link wheel and duplicate content is a classic example.

    I used to be a member of the forum a few years ago but couldn't remember the old password and it was on an old email account.
    Certainly not at the McDonalds stage just yet. lol. I am a business owner trying to compete not someone working purely in SEO for perspective.
     
  10. sirtinny2178

    sirtinny2178 Newbie

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    So to clarify on the top point there, If I am an active member of a forum that is industry related and have links as part of my signature - Google are likely to frown on it?
     
  11. JournoNick

    JournoNick Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Just hit up CEOSam, he knows his stuff and will gladly help you out for a small fee.
     
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  12. pxoxrxn

    pxoxrxn Supreme Member

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    McDonalds was merely a suggestion and to be honest, I was hoping you'd hood me up with some cheap burgers.

    Yes, Google wouldn't like it if you had a link in your signature, but who cares? The signature would probably bring you more traffic than Google anyway.
     
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    yay google won!
     
  14. wisdomkid

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    Google always win and Loss, but that's their problems.. We can always rank our website using tweaks. But after this PBN issue, are you expecting a Magic information again?

    Give it time, someone somewhere is testing out another masterplan.
     
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    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Despite the name of the forum, there is also a white hat section in this forum, which is why you will see a lot of advice that is white hat.
     
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    Yeah, but since Google proclaimed all link building tactics as black hat it's not really a big difference...


    Back to topic. Yes Google won!
     
  17. Peter Ngo

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    On a serious note, the reason blackhat SEO is less discussed here is because of the constant update of Google algorithm, once a method got spreaded to the public, they can easily patched it in 1-2 months.

    Just imagine you spend countless time and money finding the fast ranking method that work and it is patched next month, will you be pissed? surely you will.

    Remember the PBN hype? in the last 2-3 months, everybody and their dogs are building their so called fucking real PBN that looks like crap, and now got fucked in the ass and start screaming PBN is dead.

    But guess what, real players are still standing strong, Sape or PBN or any so called dead methods are still alive! SEO does not die, only practitioners do.
     
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  18. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Google cant win. They are not fighting you. They are just trying to provide good results.
    As long as you make your site look like a good result, your OK.
     
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    Yeah Google win last year. Op you sounds like Matt cutt
     
  20. aka sam

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    Yes, Google won against white hat SEO and now you cant rank your site with so called White HAT SEO.

    Black hatters never loose. The battle can never stop.