Hardsofts Horny Zip/Email Submit - Can i make a quick buck on DP?

Hey guys,

Ive released my email/zip submit method on BHW for free. A few of you have already started making money with it, and will have no problems getting to the 300-500 dollar days im doing with it.

Anyways, I want to make a quick buck by selling this method at DP...

1. Do you think i can sell this over at DP? (given that i have already posted it here for free... i guess i would just have to trust that my fellow BHW members dont leak it)

2. How much do you think i can sell this for?

3. Would any of you be willing to post a review/testimonial for me?

Thanks guys, just want to hear your opinions first.

1. yes i think you could.

2. i think.. about 100 ~ 200 range?

3. i would!

Hardsoft,

To prevent DP people from leaking it since it's posted here maybe you should have one of the mods erase the other thread and give everyone fair notice it's going bye bye. And then perhaps you could give us folks a nice discount on the final product.
I really think you should sell it at DP because it's probably only of matter of days before some loser sees your thread over here and decides to rip you off and write a 4-5 page ebook and sell it themselves. I really think you do need to have your other thread scrubbed. I'm sure the majority of BHW members are loyal, but there's inevitably a few pricks in any group. It's not like people who join BHW are prescreened or anything. Come to think of it I'm sure there are quite a few DPers who scout BHW out and I'm sure someone would inevitably make noise at DP that people can learn your system for free right here...

Perhaps you should up the price and offer support. (Unless of course you don't want to offer support, in which case just up the price!).
Personally I think the DPers tend to be whiny bitches who undervalue a good thing. For a system that could really make them $300-$500 per day they would whine about paying $40.
Do you realize how much money making systems sell for out in the 'real world'? People would pay THOUSANDS of dollars to learn about a business that could bring them in returns like that. (And most of those are total worthless BS) If it were me, I would charge $997 or more. Only super serious people who are actually going to follow through need apply.
You'll sell less at that price point, but overall probably have less hassle and make more money. And you'd have less people asking you questions like 'If it's really making you $XXX per day why are you selling it so cheap?'. I think a price of $3xx to $9xx would shut them up.
Just my two cents. Take it with a grain of salt because at the moment I'm a broke n00b LOL.
I really wanna give your method a go but I just lost a bunch of cash on stupid adwords moves.. I might give it a shot anyway. I'm quite sure it will work, I just have to be super sure!
Thanks for your generosity!
I'd be happy to give you a review on the finished product (and give it a spin). Heck I probably wouldn't be broke anymore! Just keep in mind I have no rep at DP, n00b there too.

No reason why you cant sell it but there's quite a few of those dumbfucks in this very forum from over there and I would almost bet that one of them is writing the ebook now bro. Your best bet is to get on it quick as possible.

Yeah you should sell the method as soon as possible and get the other thread deleted otherwise you might have the issue of the method being leaked or something.

I would be suprised if someones not already selling the method over there. Also dont undercut yourself. This method can pull in big bucks so charge big bucks. Think about it, if someone was genuinely offering you a method that can make $300-$500 per day and they wanted $50 for it, I would find it very suspicious myself.

My advice: Price High, Sell Low

booooooooooo dont sell something youve already given out for free. Stay away from being greedy. A few hundred dollars? Good luck man people will get all pissed, this method isnt for complete noobs really. Can you make that much with this? sure its possible, but its not as easy to as it used to be thats for sure.....

Actually,

I was going to say the exact same thing as Havok really. As stated, I've done this type of promotion long before the posting here and long before polls were even talked about. As a matter of fact, I distinctly remember Havok spilling his polling ideas and people going absolutely nuts over it. I also distinctly remember wanting to cut his fucking head off.

It's whatever you want to do man, and you will likely get away with it but in the end it's really just another twist to what a lot of dirty ass ppc'ers have been doing. Either way dude it was nice to see someone just throwing something out there that makes money for them. I cant bring myself to be such a good samaritan like that anymore.

Yeah, sell it. You've already let the cat out of the bag, might as well cash in a bit more before it gets hit by a truck and killed.

Leave the thread up, it'll be great publicity.

Add a unique twist ending. You know, the part you DIDN'T give out in the free version, the one that makes this thing take off and make as much as $1,118.83 in profit on your best day blah blah. Then the bonus camtasia video where you walk them through the whole process of setting up their first site, putting in the double meta-refresh etc. blah blah etc etc.

Price it at $497 for the new ending and the hand hold training video.

And hell yes I'll give you a writeup on it. This is great stuff. I wish to hell you hadn't released it publicly cuz now I have to twist it like a fuckin' pretzel to stay out of the kiddy pool; you know how kids are, they just piss in it without thinking about the fact that they and everybody else are now playing in piss.

My little twist should have this working nicely, but I need a few days to figure out how to code a few things. I might have a handy little "keep your ass out of jail free" script to pass out in a few days. No big secret, just an autorotator that will keep you from overworking any one offer.

I'm working on it now and doing some testing. If I can get it to work I'll throw the code up here as a freeby in thanks for this whole concept. I'm not really a coder but got a bug up my ass to learn, so...

Good luck with your sale and thanks for the thread.

And Cpamaster don't be such a stranger. I know you're all CEO like and stuff now, but you're a huge asset to the whole industry. Don't hide yourself away bro.

Hope the new bambina's doing well.

Peace,

-scuba

I was thinkin that i would just sell it for somethin cheap like $100-150. That way people will be getting more than what they paid for.

Also, i dont really think im being greedy (afterall, i did post my method for free on this forum), i just want to make a quick buck so i can dump it into this other investment ive been looking at. But maybe im not seeing the whole picture...

So far, ive gotten a few opinions saying i should price it in the hundreds (which i never intend to do) and some saying i shouldnt even sell it. Still, id like to hear some more opinions before i make a decision.

id pay upwards of 200-300$.. any less and yes, I would question the method or the longevity etc..
great stuff man

I agree with Patrick Bateman...BOOOOOOOOOO!

Just use the method yourself if you believe in it so much and make more with it long term rather than saturating it.

havokb8 said:

booooooooooo dont sell something youve already given out for free. Stay away from being greedy. A few hundred dollars? Good luck man people will get all pissed, this method isnt for complete noobs really. Can you make that much with this? sure its possible, but its not as easy to as it used to be thats for sure.....

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I respect thinking of those who don't want you to sell it. That in mind I still don't think that selling it now would be necessarily greedy.. it would be preemptive strike. Of course I also understand the more people who do it the more saturated and difficult it becomes for all. Everyone will have to get creative to get out of the 'pee river' Scubaslick mentioned.. hahahah. So for the sake of all, if you do sell it sell it high. Scubaslick's ideas are pretty dern good. Still even with a 'twist' I think less people will buy at it DP if they know they can get ~80% of the formula here for free.

Heck, why not just keep it under wraps and scale your strategy yourself to make a 'quick' buck? If it's really working for you, just do more if it! It will make you Waaaaay more in the long run than selling it at DP. The more people you give this out to the less viable of a strategy it will be even for you.. I'm also for the 'keep it to yourself' idea.. : )

It's all what you want to do Bud. Some of us who bank well just hate to see someone as giving as you were go over to that god forsaken place and have a bunch of fuckbags buy it and then drive up bid prices. There are tons of other places to advertise and I even threw out a hint about International Content Network campaigns but it really comes down to what you want to do. Everyone is going to support you dude no matter if you keep it here, sell it for high or low. You inspired and no matter what you do, there is no way you can fuck that up.

Ha Scuba - Thanks for the words. Yes, suffering a bit of an identity crisis really but almost to the point of "dont give a fuck".

Young one is doing great. She dont sleep much at night which kind of works
out with the insomnia

Hardsoft, if you sell it at the right price (ie. upwards of $200) then you won't get many dickheads over at DP buying it - just a small handful of committed people. You could even charge a lot more if you included start-up templates and ongoing coaching.

I say go for it! You should do well, especially because you'll have a heap of great reviews from BHW members....

Good luck!

Another thing is, ok its sort of your method.......but like cpamaster said i gave away the basic poll method free a few years ago, i can sit here and say that that method is mine basically and you would never have found it without me. Sure you put a spin on it, but was it really that hard to figure out? Maybe so, for most people I was doing this twist a few years ago when i gave away the basic method a few years ago lol......So maybe thats also where im coming from on it....Ive seen people repackage my ideas many times and sell them..........I mean this is different obviously, its something new, (for the public that is)........anyway i just say keep it free thats just me as I hate DP and also hate selling ebooks... just an opinion

Another thing is, ok its sort of your method.......but like cpamaster said i gave away the basic poll method free a few years ago, i can sit here and say that that method is mine basically and you would never have found it without me. Sure you put a spin on it, but was it really that hard to figure out? Maybe so, for most people I was doing this twist a few years ago when i gave away the basic method a few years ago lol......So maybe thats also where im coming from on it....Ive seen people repackage my ideas many times and sell them..........I mean this is different obviously, its something new, (for the public that is)........anyway i just say keep it free thats just me as I hate DP and also hate selling ebooks... just an opinion

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Ya i can see where you are coming from. I would feel somewhat "cheated" too since this method was a spin off of your poll method. I didnt look at it that way at first. I respect your feelings and why you do not want me to sell something that is, in the end, yours. But now that its already out in the public on BHW, wont somebody else just come in and take the idea and sell it instead? If thats the case... id rather it be me selling it than someone else.

Its not that big of a deal to me, ive already given it out for free. but like you said, it would suck if someone else took your idea and sold it.

hardsoft said:

Ya i can see where you are coming from. I would feel somewhat "cheated" too since this method was a spin off of your poll method. I didnt look at it that way at first. I respect your feelings and why you do not want me to sell something that is, in the end, yours. But now that its already out in the public on BHW, wont somebody else just come in and take the idea and sell it instead? If thats the case... id rather it be me selling it than someone else.

Its not that big of a deal to me, ive already given it out for free. but like you said, it would suck if someone else took your idea and sold it.

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bro i didnt really mean to come off like that either, it really doesnt bother me at all that you want to sell that, i was more saying i just think its something that at this point, should be free....

I think its too late for selling it. Lots of DP-ers come here too, and plenty of them saw your free post

Maybe rather than selling it those that implement it and make something off it should step up and donate the BHW or whatever

you could have sold this here for a good price, a few guys sold systems for $500 that werent really making the amounts said... anyway thx for the share, and in my opinion i think its easier to keep using the system to make ur money... i think that if u sell in DP u will risk the system a lot