hacking 1000 articles.

WorkingNow said:
You're using survivorship bias, sure google and others changed the game but they stay relevant through incremental improvement (and incremental failure, see google+, google hangouts, soon to be stadia ect).

You cant innovate without throwing lots of stuff at the board and seeing what sticks. Imagine if google poured all their resources into g+ only to have it fail, they would be out of luck and out of cash fast.

Its better to pivot quickly and iterate based on data, the best way to do this is to not release a 10X / 1000% product, but to release a MVP (10% product) and allow the users and data to steer your iterations. This is how a 10X happens, through data driven iteration. Failures, espcially in tech typically happen because they do what you are suggesting and just press on in the dark on useless features or services no on wants or asked for.

There are edge cases, but the above is tech entrepreneurship 101. Smart people learn from the (well documented) mistakes of others, dont try to reinvent the wheel on SOP's focus your energy elsewhere. If you truly believe in executing on the 80-20 rule, then doing the above is a none choice.
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I disagree.
a 10x product is still a 10x product even at MVP stage. and Im not suggesting to press on in the dark in futility. I just don't agree with your suggestion of optimization for the win. I would rather invest my energy into game changing tech - LIKE GOOGLE DOES - even as a small pilot because it can be scaled to a monopoly. wasting time on small incremental improvement is not entre.. 101. while entre.. comes in all styles. and while some people may advocate LEAN, not all do. Personally, the model I follow is on treating startups as long out of the money financial options. I don't waste time on anything that cant give me a monopoly position in a market. I also don't work on things that are trendy.
But that's my philosophy. Yours can be different.
 
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Damn... This makes me want to try to program my own bot.

I have limited experience in python. You've inspired me where should I start?

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Holy shit how did you do this lmao
 
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M4DM4X said:
You can use scrapebox and their premium module to scrape articles based on html tags, and then spin them or translate them to get unique content. It can also auopost to wordpress blogs.
Good luck mate, interesting journey.
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It is a good solution to obtain SEO content but not content for money site.
 
Gumnby said:
Damn... This makes me want to try to program my own bot.

I have limited experience in python. You've inspired me where should I start?

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Holy shit how did you do this lmao
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its been my job to do shit like this for a long time, mate. happy to give you some pointers via DM if you have any specific problems you're looking to solve.
 
feralAddict said:
I have 2 decades worth of experience in ML and AI development. While Linkedin may think all Im good for is being a Dominos pizza driver, I feel I have a little bit more knowledge to share :)
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My first take on the machine learning field turned out to be rather a discouraging one. First I was terified of the data I am supposed to have. Then I was blown away by the amount of computational power required to train. I got rid of NVIDIA GPU.

I decided to not move forward without a solid advice.
 
The problem with AI generated content is that its a mixture of facts and fiction. You will have to manually proofread the content to ascertain facts and correctness of the content. We are still far away from getting human like content from machines.
 
I agree that it is still impossible to do it realistically, and it is clear that this is written by a person, not a machine.
 
crnack said:
My first take on the machine learning field turned out to be rather a discouraging one. First I was terified of the data I am supposed to have. Then I was blown away by the amount of computational power required to train. I got rid of NVIDIA GPU.

I decided to not move forward without a solid advice.
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yeah I know what you mean. Transfer learning has done a lot for the field.
 
I'm curious if you spun articles and edited/rewrote them manually would the content end up passable?
 
J Bird said:
I'm curious if you spun articles and edited/rewrote them manually would the content end up passable?
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depends on what spinner you use and how much you rewrite. What I found with wordai was that it spun and then some resultant sentences said the opposite of what info was originally written. for example higher ranking keyword became lower ranking keyword. this is a complete deal breaker for me.
 
If i wanted to spin entire 1000+ word articles and manually edit, what would be a reasonable go to? or maybe top 2 or 3?
 
Such a valuable thread! @feralAddict - did you go live with your Product yet?
Would you be open to some Q's via DM?
 
@ferralAddict Have you ever tried using Quillbot to paraphrase?
 
shady185 said:
@ferralAddict Have you ever tried using Quillbot to paraphrase?
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Useless and google has algorithms to detect it. I'm currently trying to spin the world in the opposite direction. That's a little bit more challenging.
 
crnack said:
Useless and google has algorithms to detect it. I'm currently trying to spin the world in the opposite direction. That's a little bit more challenging.
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I wonder why u always shit on quillbot + where you get facts that google can detect it. It even changes sentence structure.
Apart from quillbot, all spinners generate unreadable garbage.
 
paraztos said:
I wonder why u always shit on quillbot + where you get facts that google can detect it. It even changes sentence structure.
Apart from quillbot, all spinners generate unreadable garbage.
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If you aren't able to reverse engineer quillbot technology, it's low scale.

There is no way to use it with API. Unless you wish to buy 10 licenses to produce 10 arguably detectable articles per minute.

Do I always shit on quillbot? I think I said this is a good tool on a number of occasions.
Anyways, it's quite limited for the purpose. :)

As a tidbit, I ran a lot of quillbot content through duplicate checkers using w-shingling and jaccard indexes and the results were anywhere between 5 - 20% duplicate shingles comparing to the original piece.

The setting was creative / expand + 3rd level of synonyms.

There were shingles where in a 1000 word long article there were 2 or 3 identical sentences in a single shingle.
It cannot change the sentence structure everywhere, leaving some evident footprint.

This is too much to pass the most basic content plagiarism checks.

I won't even mention technology at the disposal of Google.
That's irrelevant and my bet is you would probably say it's the otherwise despite the evidence in patents.

Keep in mind a lot of big tech companies started to heavily use machine learning in the past decade.
If you forget it, you're pretty much living under a rock.

Modern SEO is about big data and machine learning. Anything else is s*it you might use to become a virtual assistant or manual SEO worker in corporate world.
 
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Check the splogs journeys, there's a guy who made his own scraper + AI summarizer and publishes thousands of pages per day. He said the content is helpful for the users and not the usual AI gibberish, even got accepted on Adsense, so probably you'll get some insights from there.

Curious what solution you'll find. I'm also thinking about splogs.

feralAddict said:
squish your competition and establish a monopoly
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feralAddict said:
because it can be scaled to a monopoly
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LOL someone been reading Peter Thiel.
 
blogmen said:
Check the splogs journeys, there's a guy who made his own scraper + AI summarizer and publishes thousands of pages per day. He said the content is helpful for the users and not the usual AI gibberish, even got accepted on Adsense, so probably you'll get some insights from there.

Curious what solution you'll find. I'm also thinking about splogs.





LOL someone been reading Peter Thiel.
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I wasn't thinking of Thiel when I wrote it, but now that you mention it, yes: 'competition is for losers'
Although I've never actually read any of Thiel's stuff. I listened to a bit of 0 2 1 but it seemed to be more focused on arguing the points instead of pushing them further and exploring them in execution.
why the LOL though? I take it you're not a fan of Thiel?
 
I respect the attitude here. Not many are brave enough to compete. Let alone establish a monopoly.
 
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