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Guy Taking my Content word for word will I be Penalized?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nilomas, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. nilomas

    nilomas Regular Member

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    Basically I CopyScaped my own content on a few sites earlier today because I had the feeling someone was scraping my content. I found this guy that has been taking almost exactly word for word everything I have put on my site. I have 80 pages indexed so far and almost all of them he has posted on his site without spinning.

    The problem is my site is fairly new and I have no real credibility with Google. The only thing I have over this guys site is his SEO and whole site is absolute garbage. My content is all related to the niche that I'm writing about while his site is all over the place like a blog so to speak. He also has affliate links and garbage ads all over his site I'm honestly surprised he's even in the index.

    I guess my question is, how does Google count duplicate content? Will he be penalized for copying my content? Also what happens if I higher quality sites copys other persons content?
     
  2. T2tkid

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    Contact his host and list all the articles link he copied from you. He will be asked to remove it.This happens to me and my ranking was diminishing until i figure out what was wrong.Good Luck.
     
  3. nilomas

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    Is it possible to keep on working on my site backlinks etc more relevant content and this problem be resolved by itself? I mean will Google eventually realize that I'm the originial owner of this work? Or my "authority" eventually take over his.
     
  4. Remington

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    Google, realize something?!? Don't hold your breath. Seriously.

    File a DMCA complaint with the G, watch those pages of his site get banned, and laugh.
    The only reason not to do that is if you yourself had copied the content from somewhere.

    I hate site copiers and if I find one, it's nukin' time. The only exception is if they leave my affiliate code in. If they do, then what do I care where the commissions are coming from? And before anyone asks, yes - I have had people be that stupid. One copy site outranked mine and dutifully dropped all of the commissions into my account for over a year. I laughed and let them frustrate themselves with Google while I collected the money.
     
  5. nilomas

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    I think instead I'm just going to report him as Web Spam and get him deindexed hopefully! His site breaks Adsense TOS and looks like generic webspam adding no real content to anything.
     
  6. ChatAnd.net

    ChatAnd.net BANNED BANNED

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    I think google will count the site with the most authority
     
  7. nilomas

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    Just reported him as Web Spam and reported for violation of Google Adsense. This guy has 5 text ads on one page with my shit in the middle of it. Back to work now, just going to keep on working. If this isn't resolved in a week i'll file a DMCA
     
  8. Unify

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    What's his blogs url? I can try to scare him with a dmca claim for you.
     
  9. Scritty

    Scritty Elite Member Premium Member

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    The minute you post ANYTHING new on your site, ping it, bookmark it and these days you might as well get a Google author account and take ownership of it that way as well.

    GOOGLE ARE DUMB. the first they see is the first they credit. So make sure it's YOUR'S (it's not hard to do). I've argued over plagirism before now, and it's real hard to tell who the original is. Contrary to what some tell you most webhosts couldn't give a frick about you QQing about stolen content.

    Scritty
     
  10. powpew

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    Is Google really that dumb? All posts presumably have a timestamp, so I'm pretty sure Google bot reads it but what I'm not sure of is how it is interpreted by G.

     
  11. weruncompanies

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    Contact the Domain Registrar. If their information isn't accurate they have to provide the correct info within 30 days ICANN. I would personally call the person over the phone and gather as much information on them personally before I do. I'd also call the web host and tell them to remove or and explain how I'm going to file a court claim if they don't within 7 business days. As well file a DMCA complaint with Google. If they have any types of advertising, I would call all of their advertisers and explain how they are running their websites. If none of the above works, I'll find someone to take down the website personally.. There are certain ethics you don't break in the IM world, some people have no respect if they are making a few dollars.

    Just copyscaped a good chunk of my pages, I'm still good thankfully..
     
  12. danny1

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    Yes, you just need to ensure your content is indexed first.

    That's a big assumption. Bit like many on here who think and write in 'American' and assume everyone else understands. Yes, CMS's like Wordpress are popular, but not everyone uses them and the web existed way before Wordpress. In any case, timestamps in Wordpress can be manipulated, so are not 100% accurate.
     
  13. Expertpeon

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    You can fake timestamps in about 2 seconds.

    Your faith in Google is touching though, I can tell you're not too experienced with what Google is and how they operate...
     
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  14. doorenour

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    Still, there's time of indexing. Google indexes sites pretty quickly (AFAIK), so if that guy isn't THAT fast, the first one should be valued most, right?
     
  15. Expertpeon

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    Again, you don't know Google at all. Spend some serious time in their cesspool of mismanagement and you'll begin to see things more clearly.

    Spend some time with Google in things other than search and you find that they commit crimes (actual crimes) on a regular basis. In fact, I'm presently in a law suit with them over just this.

    They've violated at least 4 federal laws (with no real issues proving this fact) regarding one of their services, and the damages are mounting to the mid 5 figure range in the case. Rather than settling early, they're now facing an intercontinental legal plane ride next month.
    They are stubborn, stupid, with no regard for their company's reputation or the damages that can be caused therein.
     
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  16. NetMarketer

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    Don't count on Google to know who's first. I've seen damage to older sites by completely brand new domains within days. It makes no sense but it is what it is. And if you're not completely snow white, I wouldn't invite Google to mediate. The point is to stop them from serving your content in every way. Removal from a search engine is superficial in the scheme of things.

    Contact the offending site first and tell them they don't have permission to use your content and you're giving them a chance to take down the material. If in 48 hours (maximum) nothing happens, email the host with all the proof you have. Make sure you're getting in touch with the actual host because people have been known to fake this, especially if they make a habit out of ripping off entire websites. Go as far upstream as you can when researching the IP ownership.

    Good luck.
     
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  17. Junkfood00

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    Please tell us more. I'm interested.
     
  18. Marcink99

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    This is what I do I copy first paragraph of my content and put it in google if my site comes up first and I know its not panalized and google knows iam the first author if not than report to g
     
  19. Typlo

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    This is what I send to this kind of guys :

     
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    I cannot talk about the case until it's finished, but I plan to send guest posts to a lot of tech blogs about it.
    Effectively, Google's entire customer service staff for most of their products is in India. This caused a serious, serious problem as one of their people materially misrepresented a key aspect of their product, and google then committed fraud in claiming they transferred money to us, when in fact they did not (10 emails indicated $$$ to be paid out, and then they later claimed they owed $0)

    Originally, we just wanted the mid $X,XXX figure they owed us, which was our money legally and by their own terms was due a long time ago. However, they denied it completely and then totally stopped answering emails (google has no customer service number of any kind)

    Ultimately, our attorney sent them a warning letter 3 months ago. Google responded with a form response and zero further information (even though federal law related to their licensing requires them to provide it upon request)
    Google attempted to use a clause in their contract once we filed the suit to move it to California, in my business's home state a statute exists that nullifies all such agreements in contracts (which we warned google about in the letter to their legal department as well). Google's venue change was denied (we're on the east coast).

    We then moved the case to district court after they refused to settle, and are seeking $XX,XXX figures for loss of good will, loss of revenue, interest and the original amount google owed. We are also attempting to move forward with a large fine, dependent upon the outcome of this case, because google committed wire fraud by their original misrepresentation, and their claims to have deposited money they never did at an impossible date.

    One of the laws they have undoubtedly broken (and don't seem to care at all) is the EFTA:
    You'd be surprised how many licenses Google has (federally)

    They believe they are untouchable. A smart company would have remitted the payment after the warning letter.
     
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