GSA Captcha Breaker vs Captcha Sniper Which's Better And Gives More Result,Correct Answer?

so let me get this straight guys ...

I PROVE that CB has over-inflated solve rates ... then CB updates the program to fix this ... but there was never an answer as to why the solve rate to begin with was stated at 75%, when in reality it was 20%.

And again, this is ONE example of HUNDREDS that are like this. Ill be sure to get a list and point them all out to you.

You guys are being fooled and your happy with it?

This is not desperation, this is not trash talk, these are cold hard FACTS. My inbox is full every morning with new orders. The software definitely speaks for itself and so does CB with its fake solve rates.

mikeybobikey said:

so let me get this straight guys ...

I PROVE that CB has over-inflated solve rates ... then CB updates the program to fix this ... but there was never an answer as to why the solve rate to begin with was stated at 75%, when in reality it was 20%.

And again, this is ONE example of HUNDREDS that are like this. Ill be sure to get a list and point them all out to you.

You guys are being fooled and your happy with it?

This is not desperation, this is not trash talk, these are cold hard FACTS. My inbox is full every morning with new orders. The software definitely speaks for itself and so does CB with its fake solve rates.

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How long does your trial last and what limits does It have (If any)? Wouldn't mind running my own tests and putting together some charts/graphs.

Depending on limitations, It would be nice to run a week long test. 100k+ or so sites, different emails, different private proxies. Of course I can't monitor It 24/7, but a week should be able to give a decent stability test In regards to crashes/freezes. LPM tests to see If one Is slower than the other, etc,. Also just some manual made tests comparing the two.

It's the way you speak (or type) that puts me off about your product, not that product Itself. That might be because I have not seen any other posts from you comparing the two products except In this thread. What I said before still stands, I have not used It so I can't comment.

Nightly said:

How long does your trial last and what limits does It have (If any)? Wouldn't mind running my own tests and putting together some charts/graphs.

Depending on limitations, It would be nice to run a week long test. 100k+ or so sites, different emails, different private proxies. Of course I can't monitor It 24/7, but a week should be able to give a decent stability test In regards to crashes/freezes. LPM tests to see If one Is slower than the other, etc,. Also just some manual made tests comparing the two.

It's the way you speak (or type) that puts me off about your product, not that product Itself. That might be because I have not seen any other posts from you comparing the two products except In this thread. What I said before still stands, I have not used It so I can't comment.

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I can give you a trial for as long as needed. no limits ... as long as your honest and unbiased (santos/sven didnt put you up to this) in your analysis .. thats all I ask.

regarding crashes/freezes ... from time to time a bug gets introduced and then subsequently solved ... but as of now, stability is quite good. With that said, keep in mind this is software ... and given the right environment .. anything will freeze/crash .. even the great almighty ... https://www.google.com/webhp?source...forum.gsa-online.de captcha breaker crash bug ..lol

I dont mean to come across harsh and I try to only present facts. In fact if you read the thread, the fact of the captcha solve rates being overstated has actually BEEN CONFIRMED by the GSA team .. by virtue of the 'fix' that was made once this thread came to light.. I dont make up any of these claims, since they could easily be proven wrong .. which they have not been.

mikeybobikey said:

I can give you a trial for as long as needed. no limits ... as long as your honest and unbiased (santos/sven didnt put you up to this) in your analysis .. thats all I ask.

regarding crashes/freezes ... from time to time a bug gets introduced and then subsequently solved ... but as of now, stability is quite good. With that said, keep in mind this is software ... and given the right environment .. anything will freeze/crash .. even the great almighty ... https://www.google.com/webhp?source...forum.gsa-online.de captcha breaker crash bug ..lol

I dont mean to come across harsh and I try to only present facts. In fact if you read the thread, the fact of the captcha solve rates being overstated has actually BEEN CONFIRMED by the GSA team .. by virtue of the 'fix' that was made once this thread came to light.. I dont make up any of these claims, since they could easily be proven wrong .. which they have not been.

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No one put me up to anything lol. I personally have never had a crash, but software Is software and It happens.

Shoot me a PM with a 7 day trial code (or however It works). Shouldn't take more than that to do tests. Why would my analysis be biased? If something works better than what I currently use, I switch. I'm personally not a fan of gimping myself (especially when earning money).

If I can find the time tonight, I will do a quick 10k-15k blast and post results here. Week long analysis will be In a new thread.

mikeybobikey said:

Hi Trevor ~ we have a free 5 day trial .. why dont you give it a spin .. and see your verifieds go up

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Sorry but i'll pass on the trial.

And by the way, CB Stats are NOT over inflated, those are the stats at the time the captchas were created and put in to CB. As you know, Captchas are updated all the time and unless every single one, umm over 900 captchas currently in CB, was updated every week, nothing will change on the stats of their own solve rates.

I update and add my own captchas to CB, so I know how all those stats work.

I would think that you for one would know this, seeing as you also have a captcha solve software and i'm sure that your solve rates for every single captcha your software solves is not a real time stats.

So I would really appreciate, and many others as well I would hope, if you would stop bashing CB and saying that it's an inferior software or a more expensive knock off of yours and just deal with the fact that CB has taken over OCR captcha software. Either time to move on or bring yours up to speed and maybe market your software a little better.

I sell SER lists and you don't see me jumping in to threads knocking down other list sellers. Grow up man. Enough is enough.

TrevorB said:

Sorry but i'll pass on the trial.

And by the way, CB Stats are NOT over inflated, those are the stats at the time the captchas were created and put in to CB. As you know, Captchas are updated all the time and unless every single one, umm over 900 captchas currently in CB, was updated every week, nothing will change on the stats of their own solve rates.

I update and add my own captchas to CB, so I know how all those stats work.

I would think that you for one would know this, seeing as you also have a captcha solve software and i'm sure that your solve rates for every single captcha your software solves is not a real time stats.

So I would really appreciate, and many others as well I would hope, if you would stop bashing CB and saying that it's an inferior software or a more expensive knock off of yours and just deal with the fact that CB has taken over OCR captcha software. Either time to move on or bring yours up to speed and maybe market your software a little better.

I sell SER lists and you don't see me jumping in to threads knocking down other list sellers. Grow up man. Enough is enough.

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Dont embarass yourself since you have absolutely no knowlege of what you're talking about. Yes, they are way over-inflated as I have already shown.

Ill go ahead and let the cat out of the bag and I am sure this will result in a new version with this being fixed .. but here goes ... I hope this isnt over your head ... its actually quite simple.

You load a new captcha type into CB and you provide say ... 10-25 samples.

You develop a kick-ass algorithm that solve these 10-25 samples at X%

Done ... right?

Nope.

Now test that same algorithm against 100 samples ... guess what X% is very likely to be lower and sometimes MUCH lower than your orginal ssuccess rate. Why???? Its simple ... 10-25 is not enough samples develop an algorithm on. It has ZERO to do with what you are claiming above. Captchas are RARELY updated .... wow man you are so off base here it IS embarassing.

So yes, in a nut shell ... and I dont know if its laziness, lack of competancy or just not doing it long enough like I have, but CB develops their algorithms agains VERY SMALL sample sets, which ends up significantly overstating the success rate.

Prove me wrong Trevor ... guess what ... you cant. because I am right.

Now on to some details ... here are MORE examples of what I am talking about ... and once again ... PROVE ME WRONG ... I am waiting ....


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CS develops our algorithms against 100 samples MINIMUM on every type.... this is Captcha Solving 101 ... and it simply has not been done in CB.

Ask ANY serious developer of OCR based captcha solving and they will agree 100% with what I am talking about..... In fact I just had this same discussion with Kelvin (name ring a bell) this morning.

Its sad really how the captchas sniper coder is so desperate to try to gain a sale.

Captcha Breaker has surpassed it and he cant handle the loss LOL

Just buy Captcha Breaker you wont be sorry. Your verifieds will be double the amount...trust me.

hnmfvnxe said:

Its sad really how the captchas sniper coder is so desperate to try to gain a sale.

Captcha Breaker has surpassed it and he cant handle the loss LOL

Just buy Captcha Breaker you wont be sorry. Your verifieds will be double the amount...trust me.

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whats sad is the fact that you and many others are buying into this having 'surpassed' CS .. once again I am offering concrete evidence and all you wanna do is 'hang out with the cool kids'. As you can see from the thread, the users with an objective mindset are finally starting to see what I am talking about.

Again, please provide some proof of this 'doubling' of verifieds ... your claims are completely baseless ...

and MARK MY WORDS, now that I've publicly shown the flaw that exists in CB, you will see an update coming to address it .... and heres the really sad part, is that up to now, users of CB have been swearing by its effectiveness and how much better than CS it is ... and this whole time .. you have been wrong. So let the CB cheerleading continue while you miss out on an increase in verifieds and ultimately more $$$ in your pocket.

I have 2 license cb and 2 license cs, i'm using it with gsa ser, but now i'm not using gsa ser or any automatic backlink software anymore, so i can't comment on the two software on their last updates, but i want to share my own experience about cb and cs, with cs we get the captcha solved more than cb, but cb is more stable than cs, because i'm using vps when use it sometimes when i look into my server i found cs already hang and didn't solve anything to make it work i must restart it again, cb more stable than cs, i didn't find cb crash on my server, but according my experience yes cs more faster and more giving result than cb, so its up to you if you want to use cs or cb as your captcha solver software

Mikey, this is coming from an unbiased opinion, because I couldn't give 2 shits... as long as they work! I have bought CB, simply because of your trash talking, I don't care if CS (so you claim) has a better solve rate than CB.

Santos (Devin) has shown a much more professional stand in this whole debacle, he hasn't kept going on with this petty fight and solely for that fact have I bought not only CB, but also GSA SER and their Indexing. He's a genuine lad who has answered ALL of my questions (some; if not most of them were stupid) who has awesome morals (i'll have you know he's the most unselfish guy i've ever met on BHW).

I have had 0 trouble with CB so far and to be honest, I don't really expect any trouble... I can leave GSA SER and CB running literally all day on my VPS and come back to it still running! Isn't that the whole point of automatic software?

So OP, if you want professionalism; pick CB... if you want someone who has a constant chip on his shoulder who feels he has to prove a point to every single being who comes to this thread instead of trying to fix his software, pick CS.

Spuffed said:

Mikey, this is coming from an unbiased opinion, because I couldn't give 2 shits... as long as they work! I have bought CB, simply because of your trash talking, I don't care if CS (so you claim) has a better solve rate than CB.

Santos (Devin) has shown a much more professional stand in this whole debacle, he hasn't kept going on with this petty fight and solely for that fact have I bought not only CB, but also GSA SER and their Indexing. He's a genuine lad who has answered ALL of my questions (some; if not most of them were stupid) who has awesome morals (i'll have you know he's the most unselfish guy i've ever met on BHW).

I have had 0 trouble with CB so far and to be honest, I don't really expect any trouble... I can leave GSA SER and CB running literally all day on my VPS and come back to it still running! Isn't that the whole point of automatic software?

So OP, if you want professionalism; pick CB... if you want someone who has a constant chip on his shoulder who feels he has to prove a point to every single being who comes to this thread instead of trying to fix his software, pick CS.

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how does pointing out a major flaw and shortcoming of a software = trash talking? sorry you overpaid and are missing out on better solving ... your loss.

Ive never heard anything more ludicrous as to say that you dont care which product works better .. only that you 'perceive' someone to be more 'professional' as a resons to buy .... i could list my credentials here vs santos .. and you would clearly see who is the professional here. But again, this has nothing to do with santos or I, I actually like him and thinks hes a good guy, but this thread is about one thing and one thing only and that is .. which product works better.

Fix CS?? CB is the one being fixed at the moment, to fix the major flaw that I pointed out, not CS. We already develop algorithms against a large sample set so we have optimized solve rates.

"a fool and his money are soon parted"

mikeybobikey said:

how does pointing out a major flaw and shortcoming of a software = trash talking? sorry you overpaid and are missing out on better solving ... your loss.

Ive never heard anything more ludicrous as to say that you dont care which product works better .. only that you 'perceive' someone to be more 'professional' as a resons to buy .... i could list my credentials here vs santos .. and you would clearly see who is the professional here. But again, this has nothing to do with santos or I, I actually like him and thinks hes a good guy, but this thread is about one thing and one thing only and that is .. which product works better.

Fix CS?? CB is the one being fixed at the moment, to fix the major flaw that I pointed out, not CS. We already develop algorithms against a large sample set so we have optimized solve rates.

"a fool and his money are soon parted"

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Out of all the people saying that when using CS it's always crashing, you never seem to comment about that to see if you can figure out what the problem is. All I ever seeing you comment about is when people say CB is better than CS.

Why is that?

TrevorB said:

Out of all the people saying that when using CS it's always crashing, you never seem to comment about that to see if you can figure out what the problem is. All I ever seeing you comment about is when people say CB is better than CS.

Why is that?

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crashing is a very isolated thing ... CB crashes and so does CS ... I will respond anytime to crashes .. where am I not responding?

I respond to any and all *REAL* reports of CS crashing and solve whatever issue there is promptly. I take the CB 'cheerleading' posts that claim CS crashes with a grain of salt .. and so should you.

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crashing is a very isolated thing ... CB crashes and so does CS ... I will respond anytime to crashes .. where am I not responding?

I respond to any and all *REAL* reports of CS crashing and solve whatever issue there is promptly. I take the CB 'cheerleading' posts that claim CS crashes with a grain of salt .. and so should you.

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In the years I have been using CB, it has never crashed for me.

In this very thread there have been comments from people saying that CS crashes on them, and out of those people all you commented on was about them saying CB was working better than CS. It seems to me that's all you really care about. Talking about over inflated stats that CB has.

Don't get me wrong, i'm sure CS is great, and stats you have might be more ""Accurate"" than in CB, but for what it's worth. is this ever going to stop?

TrevorB said:

In the years I have been using CB, it has never crashed for me.

In this very thread there have been comments from people saying that CS crashes on them, and out of those people all you commented on was about them saying CB was working better than CS. It seems to me that's all you really care about. Talking about over inflated stats that CB has.

Don't get me wrong, i'm sure CS is great, and stats you have might be more ""Accurate"" than in CB, but for what it's worth. is this ever going to stop?

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None of those that posted have ever contacted support and ever sought support for their issues. In fact I would bet most of them dont even have CS and are simply 'cheerleading' ... but ...

I invite anyone who has a crashing issue with CS to please contact me directly so I can see whats going on .. and I will definitely .. without a doubt fix whatever issue you are having .. just like I have done for more than 3 years now.

The OP wanted to know which gives product gives more accurate issues and thats what I have addressed. I am not skirting any issues or problems.

Are you just butt-hurt because you know I am dead-on correct with what I pointed out to you and you were dead-wrong? its ok man, you gain respect when you admit you're wrong ... and you lose it when you dont.

Also, the list above is only a very very small portion of the flawed captcha algorithms that plague CB. There are literally hundreds like this.. in fact its the vast majority.

You should be thanking me for bringing this huge flaw into the public so it can be fixed and you unltimately have a product that will finally get close to the accuracy of CS.

CB vs CS = SAME

hnmfvnxe said:

Its sad really how the captchas sniper coder is so desperate to try to gain a sale.

Captcha Breaker has surpassed it and he cant handle the loss LOL

Just buy Captcha Breaker you wont be sorry. Your verifieds will be double the amount...trust me.

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Have you tried CS? I haven't. But, guess what? I'm downloading it right now and will do the 5 day trial. Admittedly mikey can seem a little defensive and harsh but I get it. There is a nearly religious following when it comes to GSA products. And for good reason. But if Captcha Sniper outperforms CB, why wouldn't you use it? In the end it's all about making money. I couldn't care less about anything else.

A lot of people are making unsubstantiated claims without even trying CS simply because, it seems, they don't like the developer.

Spuffed said:

Mikey, this is coming from an unbiased opinion, because I couldn't give 2 shits... as long as they work! I have bought CB, simply because of your trash talking, I don't care if CS (so you claim) has a better solve rate than CB.

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This is exactly what I'm referring to.

I get it. I don't particularly like the way mikey is replying to people. But if his software performs better, who really gives a crap? In the end it's all about making money. If one product ends up being better than the other, I'm going to use it. I don't care about anything else. This is why I'm more than willing to run the CS trial for 5 days and see how it performs.

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Have you tried CS? I haven't. But, guess what? I'm downloading it right now and will do the 5 day trial. Admittedly mikey can seem a little defensive and harsh but I get it. There is a nearly religious following when it comes to GSA products. And for good reason. But if Captcha Sniper outperforms CB, why wouldn't you use it? In the end it's all about making money. I couldn't care less about anything else. A lot of people are making unsubstantiated claims without even trying CS simply because, it seems, they don't like the developer.

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Of course I own a copy of CS (if you read the thread you would know that) and regret buying it. Way less verified urls and crashes out of nowhere, its very unstable.

Captcha Breaker wins hands down every time.

Guys can we please drop this thread? the OP hasn't even posted for a while. Just let it go, i'm sure both CS and CB have their positives and negatives.