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Ground Floor For The Right Partner(s)

Discussion in 'Joint Ventures' started by padlock, Nov 19, 2011.

  1. padlock

    padlock Regular Member

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    Hi, everyone...

    I believe that I may have stumbled upon something potentially big. However, I'm pretty certain that I need someone/a team of someones more experienced in this particular niche to make it profitable. Niche is "legal highs" (this is 100% legal in the U.S. and no literature I've uncovered indicates that it is illegal elsewhere but I may stand corrected - I didn't look into Uganda, for example). Affiliate programs exist to exploit the product but it may be more profitable to skip the middle man - this is something that I would need a partner(s) to brainstorm with me. It is presently being sold worldwide but not currently being marketed for its "recreational" uses.

    Not unlike previous, popular "legal highs", this is something that we would need to capitalize on quick. It could very well get banned should we create enough of a buzz about it. Still, I would guess that there'd be a couple of years of profitability before this happens.

    Presently, there is very little chatter about this substance in the general populace. However, if you know where to look, you'll find plenty of forums singing its praises. I've personally used the product and I know that it works. Customers would be satisfied. (and, no, I'm not "on" the substance as I type this) :D

    Downside? There's not much research that has been done on this particular product. So, there's very little out there about its safety. That's not to say that it's unsafe. It simply hasn't been tested a great deal, so no one really has any conclusive evidence one way or another. I will say that it is quite unlikely that anyone could "o.d." on it; so you wouldn't have that on your conscience or need to be worried about lawsuits (well, I suppose that's always a possibility with anything...but you get my point). That having been said, there is evidence that users who take the substance for an extended period of time (like daily, at high doses for several weeks) do have a pretty brutal withdrawal. Nothing life threatening but...not pleasant.

    Not scared away yet? ;) OK...here's what I'm looking for:

    Someone with a good reputation here at BHW, preferably someone ranking on-level or higher than me (a Jr.VIP or higher would be ideal). I really need you to have some experience in this niche or, at least, something similar because you'll kind of be leading me to a degree. I have plenty to bring to the table; a varied and strong skill-set and plenty of experience but, as I mentioned previously, not in this particular field. Bring your own tools and I'll share mine. If we're going to do this right, we'll have to hit it hard. If we follow through and work smart, I sincerely think that we might walk away with a nice chunk of change. We can start right away.

    Any of this intrigue you? Send me a PM and let's brainstorm.

    I'll answer as many questions as I can in the thread but, as I'm sure you understand, I don't want to give away the substance itself before I conclude whether or not this could be something big (I might be wrong; I don't think so, though).

    Note to mods - I double checked the rules before posting this and if you'd like to confirm with me the legality of the substance in question, I'll be happy to provide the info. It's not my intention to disrespect the forum.
     
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    Hey, Master...

    A partner. Outside of the obvious marketing expenses and costs to build sites/blogs, etc., I believe this can be done without any start-up expense (if we went the affiliate marketing route). However, if we concluded that it would make more sense to skip affiliation, there would be.

    ^^^ My long way of saying "I don't think we need a big investment".
     
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    One of the substances is illegal in a number of states and expected to be illegal in most if not all states in the U.S. very soon....

    This may in fact be a different substance than that which you are thinking of promoting. Though it would not be far stretched to think that as soon as your product gets some publicity it will face the same fate.

    I do know that people promoting that "other" substance did make a KILLING while it lasted....and I mean a KILLING. Like in the high $XX,XXX per week range with EASE.

    Anyway, it is a very cool idea and I ALMOST got into a big deal with a wholesale manufacturer but that is when about 6 states had banned the sale and use, and when I did some research on upcoming legislation it seemed as though the rest of the states were going to be shutting it down in the very near future.

    Best of luck to you man. Hope you hit it big buddy.
     
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    Thanks, kboxer! Yeah. I have a sneaking suspicion that my "substance in question" may be along the same lines. Big outright windfall and then the bottom drops out. I do think that this particular substance might have more staying power than the Salvias or "bath salts" of the past. Plus, this particular substance doesn't have all of the nasty side effects. Well, at least not as many. If someone were to take too much, they'll puke; not the end of the world - just like booze. That plus the aforementioned withdrawal for heavy users. So, it might not attract too much attention from the authorities; thereby, keeping it legal longer.

    But I totally agree. I think that there's big money here. All we gotta do is push it. But then, maybe I've been watching too much "Breaking Bad". lol.
     
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    This has been a niche I have though about going into myself.

    I would say go for it but and if you can rank for the KWs of the substances that are illegal and pitch the legal stuff you might have another USP or unique selling point.

    I have to many projects going right now or I would probably jump on.
     
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    Oh...and also should mention that this product is not currently being sold as the above mentioned products were. So, you won't find it at your local head shop or at the gas station counter. It truly is "ground floor" and can be looked at as "new". I truly think it could be the next big thing for clubbers, students, etc.
     
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    I sure do miss the days of salvia haha

    I'll Pm you in a sec!
     
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    PMs sent. Thanks, guys! If anyone else is interested, feel free to reach out or ask questions here! I'll be eyeballing this thread all night (I'm in the States).
     
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    I don't get it you looking for cash to? or just partners? also what do we have to do if we are partners? thanks bye ;)
     
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    Hey, everyone...

    Since there's some confusion, I think (and because this is my first JV post; I may have approached this the wrong way)...just to clear up what I'm looking for:

    I believe what I need are partners to make this happen. Investors would be a way to go if we wanted to purchase the product wholesale and sell it via our own online shop. But, I don't think that is necessary to start with (if it catches fire and we want to scale it up further, then yes). There are affiliate programs (not directly related to this product but online shops that do sell it) that I think we can take advantage of.

    So, that having been said, to make this big, I'm looking for partners with expertise in areas where I'm lacking. For example, I make most of my money via social networking sites and YouTube. I'm also a very skilled writer and can handle the article marketing side of things. So, these are things that I bring to the party.

    Areas where I'm capable but need a bad-ass on my team would be:

    Designing & building sites/blogs
    Keyword research
    Forum blitzing
    EMail blasting (an inboxing expert)

    All of these are things that I can do, of course. But, there are folks on BHW that are much, much better than me when it comes to this sort of thing. If this is to be done right, I'd like to bring in the best of the best. The bigger it gets/the better it's done...the more wealth there is to share among us.

    Plus, as I mentioned previously, if you have experience marketing these sorts of products (think Salvia, Kava, Krantom, etc) - you'd be perfect for the project. Still, if you know nothing about that but are a beast with the above skills - you can still participate!

    We'd split the profits as equal partners, obviously. Bottom line is this: I happened across something that I really think can blow up but I don't want to half ass it. Realizing that it's too big of an opportunity to tackle all alone, I'd like to open it up to my fellow BHW brothers and sisters. I would love to keep all of the profits for myself :D but realizing my own shortcomings in the IM world...I want to do this right with the right partners.

    Now, if you just want to invest - reach out! ;) But, if you have the tools and skills, I really don't think that this will take a lot of out-of-pocket money from any of us.

    One final note, if you do shoot me a PM, please try to include some of your successes. Let me see what you've done in the past. Of course, there's no need to reveal your methods or your star niches - just let me know what you can do.

    If I need to elaborate further, just let me know. Finally, thanks to everyone who has reached out so far!