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Got all the tools but not the talent...

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by femir, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    Hey BHW,

    As you can tell, I've been on BHW for quite a while now but due to my interest in IM being sporadic, I have yet to make anything of significance. So far, in the 2-3 years that I've been on-and-off into IM, I've made ~50$ from freebie sites and ~100$ from selling e-books on DP.

    That said, I've decided that it's time to get organized.

    I've managed to get access to all of the following software:
    Market Samurai
    Micro Niche Finder
    Traffic Travis (Free)
    Article Marketing Robot
    The Best Spinner
    TweetAttacks (Free)
    CraigsCrawl

    And I have about 60$ to spend on domains etc.

    I've looked through Google Sniper 2.0 and a few of these other courses, and I get what I have to do, find a good keyword, build a blog around it, post content to it and then build backlinks to it like crazy.

    That said, the part I can't get past is the damn keyword stage.

    I've tried using all three of the keyword research tools but most times I can't find anything decent, and when I do, the tools seem to contradict each other.

    So I guess my question is, how the hell do I find a keyword that works? And also, how do I know what criteria to use while looking for a keyword? Market Samurai has 'The Golden Rules', Micro Niche Finder has the 'Easy Filter', Google Sniper 2.0 has especially stringent rules, etc. etc.

    I think it may be a little bit of information overload, but most of the times the keywords that I find that are given the go ahead by one system and not the others just don't feel right. I've tried looking for things that I could sell through Clickbank, Amazon, and also others, but still no luck.

    I was wondering if anyone had any tips or tricks they could offer me to help make my hunt a little bit easier? and if not, then maybe how I could use the remaining tools to get some sales (TweetAttacks or CraigsCrawl)

    Thanks in advance,
    Femir
     
  2. mordred

    mordred Registered Member

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    You've been reading for 3 years - you should have more than enough information to start. If you don't start doing something and learn by doing you will be stuck in the same place forever. Tools should help you but not decide for you.

    Nike puts it best: just do it.
     
  3. chrisnkay

    chrisnkay Junior Member

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    Read the Fat Cat blueprint. Some of the info is outdated, but it is what got me started on my Adsense journey. Once you read his story (goes on forever), there are some true gems to be found. He does a good walk through with Market Samurai and Micro Niche Finder. He also tells you how to get great results using only Google (which is free). Fat Cat BluePrint is free somewhere on BHW. Let me know what you think, but I guarantee you will find some great info.
     
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  4. bibo25

    bibo25 Regular Member

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    you may go to jv
     
  5. bertbaby

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    Well the first question is how are you monetizing your IM efforts? I know it's a stupid, basic question but it really does drive all of your other efforts.
     
  6. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    Thanks all for your quick responses

    I've been trying to do that but keyword research is a part of all things online, and unfortunately that's where I'm hitting a road block. I've already launched an autoblog with a matching twitter account, but I have yet to see a single cent been made from there, and that could probably have been fixed with better keyword research...

    Thanks, I'll check it out, but to be honest, Adsense has always seemed like earning dollars a day instead of tens of dollars a day, I mean I will check it out as it may be a good place to start, but it doesn't really appeal to me...

    I may have to do that, I've begun messing with the tools a little bit to try and get familiar with them, maybe if I get a little better I should do that...

    Well, I'd be open to most forms of monetization, I have an Amazon account, a Clickbank account, I've applied for and started trying to re-activate some CPA accounts. Eventually I think the paid membership model seems like a solid choice, but I kind of want to get down the SEO/marketing side of things before I get to product creation. I mean to begin with, to get some fast cash I've been considering just trying to advertise for some of the freebie sites, but I'm not entirely sure how that would work out with AMR, cause isn't it more for backlink generation than for traffic generation? I don't really need backlinks to a referral link...

    Thanks to all of you for responding
     
  7. Statix

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    Pick a keyword and take action, don't just keep reading why you should be making money, trying to get something perfect won't do you any good if it never gets off the ground. For keyword research tools can help but you need to know whats going on. Here is one of the best keyword research threads on BHW:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ethod-step-step-keyword-research-newbies.html

    a few other search operators you need to know:

    inanchor:"keyword"

    tells you how many links are using that anchor text. Good for judging competition of kw

    Give yourself 2 hours to find a keyword then start working on whatever keyword you found. If not you'll just be researching all day and get nowhere fast.
     
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  8. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    Hmm, ok, but which tool do you recommend using to do that and with what criteria?
     
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  9. DigitalGangster

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    I honestly recommend you do what you are doing but in a massive scale.

    Start referring people to your points2shop.com link from youtube and get some cash from that , cause seo is gonna take you a while before you see your money back.

    Those freebies sites work especially points2shop, 1 dollar per referral 1 minimum payout , payout within 24-48 hours of requesting to paypal . What else would you want.
     
  10. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    Bump.
     
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    Satan Claus Regular Member Premium Member

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    He's saying to use your wits, your fingers and to use the google, Luke.
     
  12. futurestic06

    futurestic06 Supreme Member

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    thanks for sharing.dude what should i say? you have used and i think you are the master of all those products. i think slightly moderate your work and you will get good result.
    thanks
     
  13. stinkingrich

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    If you are finding keyword research difficult, go to the services section of BHW, there is one guy (glovek77) selling money making keywords starting at $17 and there is a monthly service from another (extrawinner) selling 250 money making keywords every week at around 30$ per month. Depending upon how small or big you want to start, you can use their services. Just make sure of the following (my thoughts)

    1. Go for a keyword with at least 3000 exact match searches in a month.
    2. Go for average CPC of at least $0.5 if you want to target adsense. If you are targetting clickbank product, check the gravity of the product rather than google CPC. If targeting amazon, check if the product has good reviews.
    3. Check the top 10 competition for the keyword in google. I dont really worry about the number of pages competing but i check the age, google PR and number of backlinks on the ranking page and its overall domain. That will give you a fair idea of how much effort will be involved to beat them. If the top ranking site/sites are brand name companies and the keyword contains the brand name, its better to avoid the keyword.

    PM me if you need more help or want to get jumpstarted with this.
     
  14. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    Hey all, just a little update,

    I took stinkingrich's advice and got my keyword from Glovek77, but I have to say I'm a little unhappy as it only has 1000 exact searches/month and to me it seems like more of an information keyword than a buying keyword. There are products available in the niche, and TrafficTravis gave it a Relatively Easy rating, but Micro Niche Finder gave it a yellow. That said, I think I may decide to go in for it anyways, if nothing else just to get some practice in what works and doesn't work in SEO, although the traffic numbers will be low.

    Any further feedback?
     
  15. best craigslist

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    You really have to go with your gut. Once you at least start building your first keyword as google gives you credit it will be easier to add on more keywords later, just go with the keywords that your instincts instantly likes. Keyword research tools are meant to help sort information not make decisions, the reason the conflict with each other is because they are running off a numbers game, sometimes computers can't solve everything :)
     
  16. efwebs

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    I just wanted to add that if you do kw research with MS, i would turn off the competition filter, or set it to something high like 5 million. Don't use their "golden rule"

    number of competing sites means nothing. you are only concerned about the top 10. so, after you find some keywords you like, go and look at the competition page (or plug into traffic travis) to see how competitive that first page on google is.

    really, you want to try to get into the top 3, so at least one of those spots needs to look like an easy target.
     
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    stonecold316 BANNED BANNED

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    Learn to use the software.Simply having the software is not good enough.
     
  18. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    Hmm, ok, well, I will get to work on the site pertaining to the keyword I purchased, but I've actually been able to find some product name keywords that have very little competition. Now I don't want to buy domains for them cause I'm not sure if that would violate any copyrights so I was wondering what other way I could best capitalize on them. Should I make landing pages for them on squidoo, hubpages, blogspot or some such (and if so then which one) and then try and get that to rank with backlinks or should I just write a bunch of articles about them and hope that one of those ranks?
     
  19. mitdrissia

    mitdrissia Newbie

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    I can help you out but you need to pm. I am not sure if you can pm me because i dont have 15 posts or more.Pm me so we can talk further.
    thanks
     
  20. TeenAngel

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    Femir, you said you've been off and on into IM. For the next six months, dedicate two hours per day (weekends included) to IM. Try stuff out and experiment. You're not expected to hit a home-run every time you start a site and make big money. Failure is a part of business. Edison found 99 different ways how NOT to make a lightbulb. On the 100th time, he succeeded. Just make sure when you fail, you learn from your failure.