Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by syek1, Sep 30, 2011.
Depends on intent. If its obvious that your product name is designed to fool consumers into thinking they are purchasing the other...it could be trademark infringement.
Both serving the same purpose? If yes then it might be like selling "Adibas" as "Adidas" while both are shoes.
i wasnt copying their name at all though.
the product is marketed as a "steroid alternative"
so example a steroid name is "winstrol" and everyone calls it "winn" for short
so i decided to name my product winn-x. just like the other company named theris w-inn to make it sound like the steroid. i was in no way copying this company
Get nameoflawfirmsucks.com and seo it to #1 spot for the keyword of his law firm,and say youll take it down if they do not further any legal action.
lol nice idea but i dont think that will work in my favour
If the Domains by proxy gave you the letter to do what you like with it - it means they don't care too much, I guess they would need a court decision to b forced to disclose your identity. After all that's why you used them
Lots of these companies will try to scare you but won't do much more. You would have to cost them a lot in lost revenue (and I believe they would have to prove it!) in order to pursue it any further. But I'd definitely check with your lawyer. Only you know all the details.
well I am not sure if South Africa has a extradition laws with US, if not then fuck it, and keep it up, heck move to Zimbabwe lol maybe build a hut near the border region with South Africa and Zimbabewe with internet connection, LOL US can't touch you then,
On A serious note I am not sure if you by intent made your site similer or not or if it is similer and they are bullshiting, again I would move everything to a annoymous offshore hosting, use Proxy's, cloaking, connect to your internet browser in private, and ALWAYS CLEAN YOUR HISTORY, :nemoflow:
Hahah I'm all too familiar with this:
I work for a law firm and one of our competitors had that same situation happen to them.
The law firm sued the guy that made the "sucks" website and it got him to take it down. It got a ton of press and AWESOME backlinks which I'm still having trouble beating out.
My boss and I even half jokingly discussed started our own "lawfirmsucks.com" site about ourselves and hopefully snagging some killer backlinks...
But alas we decided not to go that route...
I would see what your lawyer has to say, but ultimately it is unlikely the firm has any jurisdiction in south Africa and it is just threats.
As I say though, get an answer from a lawyer, which I am most definately not.
Ok this is what I learned during a copyright infringement a long the way.
1. Copyright in the USA doesn't apply in other countries. If hey have no copyright in the country where the business is run, they are bullying you. The record label I worked for had to have a copyright for a song in each country.
2. A simple statement on your website saying you are not associated with their product may help.
3. When Wendy's started using "Super Salad" a term used by our restaurant for years and copyrighted by us, it was simple. Wendy's said you can take the small settlement and let us have "Super Salad" or we can tie you up in court. We have staff lawyers and we can tie up in court until you are broke. Wendy's got "Super Salad".
So if they do have a legal claim on your location and appear to be big enough to sue you, give up and change the name.
thanks everyone for your input,
i think they might be trying to scare me into handing over my domain to them because i am currently position 1 on page 2 for a keyword that gets searched about 5000 times a day and they are one like page 5 lol and have been trying to rank for the keyword for years.
i might be wrong but i have a hunch that they want my domain
anyway i am going to see a lawyer first thing monday, if i have to change my product name then so be it
other than this problem i am dam exited about ranking on top 5 on page 1 for this keyword, i wanna make some good $$$
i dont know much about this stuff but i just visited http://trade.mar.cx/ and found the exact details for this trademark and under status it says " Registration cancelled because registrant did not file an acceptable declaration under Section 8." i hope that means their trademark was canceled
That's why you use black hat techniques against the law firm and the company. Read the CIA book of dirty tricks and it will give you alot of ideas.
lol - tell them you'll sell them a backlink for half-price if they leave you alone, but they must sign a 5 year contract and pay for the link upfront. Then tell them helmets are for chicks and bokbevok!
They are attempting to shake you down. They've probably sent the exact same letter to every website on the planet that even remotely resembles the site they claim to own.
Post their whois information and let some of the BHW detectives have a crack at it.
i really dont see anything wrong with what you are doing, i say screw them and they are just jelous that you are doing a better job then them, and they just want your product and the profit it will bring with it.
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