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[GOOGLE update] Backlinks value has changed so I post My experience in this matter

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by plex_brahial, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. plex_brahial

    plex_brahial Regular Member

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    Google changes its mind quite often!

    Blog comments from scrapebox: they are not what they used to be mainly because 80% of the autoaprove blogs are noffolow and Nfollow links have lost in value in google`s eyes. Third the normal ultra spined comments we all have with great post, great site blabla have no chance in getting aproved since there are hundreds of this comments coming every day.
    Only solution I see for this is aim for High PR Dfollow blogs and post using the black box plugin or the plugin that copies the above comments.

    Forum profiles lost in weight but still have importance, of course not as before.
    I see a major increase in importance for Dfollow PR 3+ backlinks no matter where they come from so getting this kind of links is important.
    The above links dont have weight if they dont have a big background of Dfollow PR 0 backs (couple hundreds at minimum)

    Article marketing-became harder because the content you post anywhere has to be at least 40% unique so keep an eye on this! Content has to be 40% unique in your submisions and on your site because google values more unique content.

    I dont know if its a coincidence but I see a lot of sites that are in the yahoo directory that rank top 5 for medium keywords.

    For medium keywords and lower: -keyword in h1 tag is not a must as long as that site has backlinks that looks like this => more than 500 backs mostly .com`s at least 1 PR 5 or more backlinks and 20 PR 2-4. This are just estimates that should give you an idea.

    Backlinks to a page that you want to rank is not a must, Ive seen a lot of pages that rank top 5 (never 1st) with 0 backs to that page but the main page has 1000+ backlinks

    So in my opinion uniqueness and authority increased in google eyes, quality backlinks with a background of high number of backlinks are valuable. Site age might have increased in importance.


    Please feel free to corect me if I am wrong in any of the above afirmations.
    Also feel free to ask any questions.

    Hope it was usefull!
     
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  2. renshi

    renshi Newbie

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    thanks for the info!:)
     
  3. lostgringos

    lostgringos Senior Member

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    Yes that is what I have been saying all along. However, so many people are drawn in by massive link building techniques. They want to be #1 yesterday and they want to pay pea nuts. Enter Indian SEO specialts LOL. There is sucker born every second on the internet especially when it comes to SEO.
     
  4. buzz1212

    buzz1212 Registered Member

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    I believe, all big G wants to see is unique content links that are shared and liked socially. Heck just check out the page ranks for some of the idiotic youtube videos.
    That's the place to find high PR links. Most of them don't even know what PR is, and
    just about all allow comments.
     
  5. cbnoob

    cbnoob Senior Member

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    @OP,

    Those statements are what you think or what you actually know from your own experience?
     
  6. reinie

    reinie Elite Member

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    i agree...
    Any thoughts on social sites?
     
  7. Tbo53

    Tbo53 BANNED BANNED

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    40% uniqueness on articles, I didn't realize that. I think mine are about 30%, I've had no real problems either.
     
  8. plex_brahial

    plex_brahial Regular Member

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    No changes in ranking in the last week?
     
  9. plex_brahial

    plex_brahial Regular Member

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    Im not ranking 100`s of sites in a daily basis, I work with sites and optimize them.
    Most of this facts are the rankings and properties I`ve seen when I am checking competiton and I`ve noticed this paterns in rankings.

    This is what I have seen in google with the sites I`ve worked with and sites that rank for a lot of keywords.

    What I think is that blogs ranking will change (meaning how easy they will rank) especially the new ones.
    The old ones that rank high will go higher if they have unique content on the site.
     
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    cyrsss Regular Member

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    Sorry I cant understand this statement
    How can One can explain ?

    Is is like Home Page are Pr3+ Not BL page ???
     
  11. ehooo

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    good info
     
  12. plex_brahial

    plex_brahial Regular Member

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    Sites that rank high have PR3+ backlinks, even PR5 or 6
    Profile backlinks should have the highest PR posible (of course I am talking about domain PR because profile has 0)
     
  13. plex_brahial

    plex_brahial Regular Member

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    Social sites are the same as they where maybe even higher if they have unique content but I can see an increase in imediate deleted blogs if they are built in the purpose of building backlinks (spun content and anchor text) by sites like blogger and others.
    Also some of the big web 2.0 properties are deleted if to many backs come to them to fast.
     
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    Thanks for the info. The content that I spin are at least 50% uniqueness. I think aiming to min 50% uniqueness is key.
     
  15. noiddemo

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    from my experience G changed the way it looks at the blogs... blogs are not so important as they used to be in the past...

    i think it`s logic... about 99% of the spammy website are blogs.... so... they took care of the way they interpret blogs...
     
  16. killer2021

    killer2021 Regular Member

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    No question about it:

    going forward google only wants to see unique content and stuff that is high quality. If google thinks the link is spam or the article is junk then they won't hesitate to convert all those links to no-follow (ie. no link value in serps) or even block the domain.

    google knows people blog comment link spam, so they no follow those links
    google knows people blast their url into forum profiles, so they no follow those links
    google knows people submit articles all over the place to article directories, so google penalizes those sites and discounts the links from the articles


    Going forward this will be the golden standard: Links from high quality sources that google views as being high quality

    what this means is:

    1) site has to appear to be high quality (not a spam blog, not an article directory, not a forum etc.) Has to pass verification by google's anti-spam team.
    2) Site has to have unique content

    You may be able to get around these IN THE SHORT TERM but in the long term eventually google will block spam sites and no follow spam links. You have to make your links appear to be coming from high quality sources (unique article + good reputation domain), and from high quality location in that source (ie. NOT in the comments section, profile section etc). Has to be IN the article's text.

    Not all links are created equal and if you do shady link building practices then those links will have ZERO value. Google will treat them as if they don't exist. So if you want to be successful in the long term you need to have many high quality links from high quality sources. No way around it.
     
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  17. Tbo53

    Tbo53 BANNED BANNED

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    Well I noticed the usual ups and downs as I climb but sites I have up already stay at the top. Not competitive keywords I should note.
     
  18. myniche

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    Good info .. but I believe unique quality content accompanied with social chatter seems to get Google's attention.
     
  19. pr0ject

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    So, i can get banned because of a big amount of baclinks in little time?
     
  20. MagicMike

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    I have to say I'm in agreement with the general tone of this thread. From what I've seen with my own sites, the ones that are already number 1 seem to be fine... but the others on page 2-5 are jumping around and a few have disappeared for now.

    Seems G has in some way discounted spam links... My Scrapebox love-fest may be getting close to the end!

    I think Google is simply making it harder to rank quickly. I don't think they can stop anyone from ranking well... they are just delaying the gratification, knowing that many of the people in this business are very impatient and thrive on "instant gratification". I think they are expecting (and probably rightly so), that large numbers of B'Hatters will give up since instant results are going to be much harder to achieve.

    Just my thoughts!