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Google sniper out dated??

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jargle, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. jargle

    jargle Newbie

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    I just got done reading google sniper, and I was wondering if someone who has already read the book could weigh in. See from what I've seen during my past 2 hours of keyword research is that it's nearly impossible to find a search that meets the criteria set in Google sniper. Is this from alot of people using the technique, or should I just search hardeR??
     
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    Yes the criteria set by GS is hard to get nowdays. Maybe too many snipers already out there. Try and experiment with higher criterias and see what happens ;)
     
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  3. Yukinari84

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    It's not outdated. The method still works great.

    I have the whole GS course, but I have never really followed his keyword criteria as far as competition numbers go. if you look hard enough, there are keywords that fit his criteria, but I stick to my own.

    The beauty behind the GS method is learning how to structure a site in way that really Google loves.

    Just like with any method, it's best to test, track, and then add your own spin.
     
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  4. jargle

    jargle Newbie

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    true true I wanted to first make sure some people were getting results modifying the original method outlined.. this has been reassuring =D
     
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    johnyz Newbie Premium Member

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    Try to look for higher keyword criterias.
     
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    MsMoneyMagnet Registered Member

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    Do you have the WSO or the Clickbank version? I only have the WSO and was wondering if it's any different. Thanks in advance! :)
     
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    cashnone BANNED BANNED

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    THIS STILL WORKS.

    I use it about 6 months ago, and it was working good. 1st page good results like i never thought possible.... SO easy.
     
  8. jargle

    jargle Newbie

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    alright well do you guys consider an SENUKE rating of easy to be sniperable? I feel like I misread the book or something because I'm having a hell of a time finding any good searches which match the criteria
     
  9. rudyvise

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    The problem with all these types of sniper strategies is you never really know the true value of the keyword market you are going into. Sure you can say that Google has X number of adword clicks per day for that keyword at x CPC and multiply that to get a potential value of the advertising monies spent, but that doesn't really give you a clear market value to make a decision on. Sure, if a lot of people are spending a lot on adword advertising and there is low organic competition then it tells you that there must be some potential there. But its all a bit too hit or miss to me. GS is not real business to me, its more of a speculative adventure into the possibility of making some unspecified money. In fact, that about sums adsense up.
    Whilst it appears a good sniper tactic, it is only sniper in terms of indentifying potential markets. It is not sniper in terms of converting to profit.
     
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    I just gave it a quick glance and it doesn't really talk much about the right keywords... you shouldn't really be looking at number of results and intitle stuff but the strength of the first 10 sites. unless it's some specific product keyword and you've got a bunch of amazons and kaboodles in there, you should probably just build some minisite on a strong web2.0 in that case
     
  11. rdwight

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    You guys shouldnt follow his guide to a T, especially in regards to competition. The sniper method has been around for ages, but in the past it was more used to hit on large competition keywords. The idea wasn't exactly to set it and forget it, but rather was a way to take on established websites without taking the time to build your own authority site.

    If you want to take on higher competition, you will have to add more pages of content, so instead of 3-5, say 10-15, and pump in a few backlinks over time. A different idea than the GS outlook, but I think a little work is inevitable. Dont shy away from work, embrace it and hit the KW's that others overlook due to competition.
     
  12. finerpleasures

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    The google sniper technique is not outdated and will never be... Becuase everyone including ur competitions grandmother is ranking on google or making money from a handfull of keywords....

    These sights may have campaign on thousands or hundred of keywords but after a while they drill down to but a few: this explains why there is software to steal ur competitions keywords.

    They have already done the hardwork!

    Back to the sniper theory
    Google snipers idea is to drill down to a set number of keywords. i beliv btw 2 to 3k.

    Now within this region there's little or no traffic especially these days when every1 owns xrumer or seo-sumtin. We all want to go for the higher searches.

    GS... assumes that even if you find a 2-3k keyword you must determine if that keyword is bankable. Is there a market that is will to buy or click in the name of luv, so to say.

    To succeed in life you must learn why something works... then you can break it and put it back together again. GS is real and it works.

    If it has failed for you remember what the author said.."there are times which you will find nothing and there are times you will find such sites or opportunities in ten mins." this might not be exactly what he said but the sum and the substance are the same.

    MY ADVICE
    1-Find another seed keyword. And follow the criteria
    which is 2-3k,bankable and logical to you.
    2- Use the google tool... he said you dont need any fancy tool.Dont!
    When you get your first keywords, hit the generate more keywords button.. until you find something you like.

    After that build a site... vidoes included... think interactive ... monetise .... promote....

    Soon i will drop my method to index in google in less than 24...
    Where to get free subdomain... for wordpress and where to get a descent domain name for nothing.....




     
  13. Yukinari84

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    1. Nothing in this business is every 100% certain.

    2. Adwords competition is definitely a good way to gauge whether a keyword is worth going after or not. You can never be 100% sure a keyword is gonna make money which is why testing and tracking are a must iff you want to make serious money.

    3. You'd be surprised how many people do buy even from weird keywords.:p
     
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  14. jargle

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    Ok my other question is I've been seeing tons of bum marketers.. So it really makes me wonder what are the big perks of writing a Ezine rather then making a fresh page? Which one is better for using the google sniper technique & what are the pros and cons of each??
     
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    I thought about this Yukinari.

    Yes, i agree that nothing is 100% certain, but i have never accepted taking risks that were not calculated. It does take time to get to a point where you can at least know to what degree the risk is a total flyer. :D

    I would sooner do my best analysis upfront versus investing to learn that it was a wasted investment.

    Of course to do the best analysis takes a long to learn all the angles.


     
  16. Yukinari84

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    When you're dealing with SEO, there's really no risk since it can be done for 100% free. If everything fails, all you lose is a few hours of your time which is nothing in comparison to how much you will gain.
     
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    GS works well and always will work well. Finding the right keywords is just a matter of taking a little bit of time and applying some original thought. Remember almost 40% of searches are phrases that have never been searched for before (according to the google blog). So there is always new keywords to be mined, like there are new products
     
  18. lotus

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    The sniper method for getting high ranking micro sites is still good.

    However the new FTC rulings make this method DANGEROUS.

    Unfortunately because you are focusing on keywords that have a trickle of traffic most of the time, you really need to convince the traffic to buy.

    Sniper uses the "flog" system of selling the product. My advice - steer clear of the "I did this and this and then I finally found this" approach.

    I think George can see the writing on the wall and that's why he's marketing Wordpress Mage (which in my opinion is a better product anyway).
     
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    I admit I haven't followed the news developments on this that much, so this might be a stupid question but: What's the danger, exactly? Does Google frown upon on these sites now (slaps/sandboxing, or even adsense ban?) or what?
     
  20. Yukinari84

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    Although you may want to check for yourself since I'm no law professional, from my understanding using a review method or anything similar won't get you into trouble.

    I believe the FTC rules on testimonials apply to you when you are selling your own product. Writing a review on someone else's product should be ok.

    The one problem that I see is since you are an affiliate you might have to state that you are an affiliate and you will make a commission.

    I personally don't do this on my review sites, just on my own personal sites. Again, not any legal advice, just my own personal choice.