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Google SERPs Domination , The d4l1t0s Theory :)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by d4l1t0s, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. d4l1t0s

    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    Lately I have seen a lot of threads about how and when and what should we post for backlinks .
    Therefore, I am writing this thread to clear some things up.
    Let me start by saying that backlinks contribute to 70-75% on your Google Ranking, the other 25-30% is on site SEO, Keywords and such.
    PR is important as well, no matter what people say but it does not mean that if your site has no PR you cannot outrank a High PR site. This is false :)


    Now when it comes to linking your site there is different types of backlins (Forum Profiles, Forum Posts, Blogs, Guest Books, web 2.0 profiles, web 2.0 proprieties, article directories, press releases ...)
    The types listed above are the most used ones because of the automation tools available :)
    I am not going to list the automation tools in here because I am assuming that anyone who have been member in here for at least 2 weeks have heard about them :)


    Now, What do I do to dominate the serps :
    I use Senuke to create some white hat background for Google. What I mean is that Senuke is a white hat SEO software. So creating web2 pages and posting articles and creating web 2 profiles won't get you site sandboxed or dropped on the serps or what so ever. Plus, Senuke creates a link wheel for all those directories and profiles, RSS Feed and bookmarks them.

    My next step is to upload articles to the article directories: 1 article linking back to my main site to over 500 article directories.
    In less than 2-3 days, my site starts growing up on the SERPS for some keywords.
    And if you check your traffic stats you will see some visitors coming by clicking on those links at the end of the articles and from the web 2.0 proprieties. That is cool but what you should be checking instead is Google bots. You will see an increase on the spider's numbers crawling your site.

    What does that mean? It means that Google start noticing that you are building backlinks for you site so it will start thinking if we may say on where to place you. Moreover, what does that mean to us? Well, it means that this is the perfect timing to pull up Xrumer and Scrapebox and start blasting directly to the main site.

    Now, How many backlinks should I post using Xrumer and how many blog post should I use using Scrapebox ? And what kind Of links Should I Post using Xrumer (profiles, Forums posts, guest books ...)

    First, you will need to check how many backlinks your competitor has. And in what niche? And do you think that your competitor is a blackhatter or not?

    If your niche is a seasonal one then you do not really want to post all your backlinks in one shot unless you are ahead of the season.
    Example: You set up a website to sell Call Of Duty 4, and the game is coming in 2 weeks. If you post all your backlinks in one shot, you will likely be dropped far in the serps and you may stay there for 3-4 weeks as well, so you will loose all the traffic coming on the three first days of launch.
    Same for clickbank product launches.

    Why do you need to check if your competitor is a blackhatter or not? Well because as a blackhatter I will just scrape all your backlinks and use them for myself :) (Where do you think Xrumer and Scrapebox lists come from)

    How do you know if he is a blackhatter? I do not really know but I do recognize Scrapebox and Xrumer links easily when checking my competitors.
    What if he is a blackhatter and there is a lot of money to be made on this niche?
    Well, we have a quote in Arabic that says ‘' Eat him for launch before he eats you for dinner''
    So you will scrape his backlinks , use them for yourself and add a little from your own list .
    If you have +1000 backlink more than he does you will leave him behind . and if you are number one on the serps and he is number 2 and there is money on this niche , he will be making money as well and most of blackhatters are lazy , so he will be happy with what he is making:)

    Now if it is not a seasonal niche and you really want to hold that first position on google you will be building your backlinks over time and by over time I do not mean two links a day :)

    Which links are better than others? All links are good but there is those, which will get indexed faster, those which will get deleted faster and those wich will be considered as spam on google eyes and you don't want that.
    The key here again is having good clean lists and keep on updating them.

    So, having 1000 links from the same forum will only count as one backlink as all the pages have the same IP address.

    I do believe that profiles backlinks are the ones that stick in there for a long time. Forum posts will be deleted if the forum is active and there are active moderators and admins.

    Guest books are good too as long as they have a high PR.

    Blog posts are well if you know how to post them and where to post them and how to tweak them :)

    And Needless to say that the quality of your backlinks is really an important fact when posting backlinks.
    Always AIM for higher PR.

    I know it is a long post, I am writing to clear up some things and to share my personal experience on my SEO journey, which was a total success .
    I hope you enjoyed reading it and God Bless.
    Cheers
    D4l1t0s
     
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  2. kaplan

    kaplan Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Thank you for that, nothing new but it is allways great to read other people angel.
     
  3. d4l1t0s

    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    just sharing my theory and methods :)
     
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  4. TyphoonAgency

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    So in your experience, there's no problem using Xrumer and Scrapebox directly on your site once the Google bots have already found it via the articles--did I read that correctly? You don't use linkwheels or pyramids or any other intermediate structure with them?
     
  5. d4l1t0s

    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    The only link wheels I use are the one created by Senuke .
    All the blasting foes directly to my money site .
     
  6. smithy

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    Interesting and always good to have insight into what people have found works.

    I do have a question. I'm looking at article marketing in a big way and am concentrating on heavily spinning articles my specific way but I notice you say you have 1 article and send it to 500 article sites. so:

    Do all 500 articles become indexed, if not what percentage as I've not tested and am spending some serious money on spinning articles instead, to try and get as many indexed as possible.

    Have you tested indexing rate, spun content vs unspun?

    Thanks

    Smithy
     
  7. d4l1t0s

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    My mistake , I forgot to mention that the article is being spun too many times. I use automation for that and it works great , again I dont need traffic form those articles as the purpose of this is to attract google spiders and generate '' white hat backlinks'' . Most of them are readable and they do generate some clicks . but I have never count on that to generate traffic :)

    I never really checked if all the 500 has been indexed or not but when I look for my backlinks before start blasting with Xrumer and Scrapebox , I do see a lot of them indexed by google .
     
  8. d4l1t0s

    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    Magic Article Submitter and Article Demon For submitting
    The Best Spinner for spinning Articles
     
  9. vampirerocks123

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    Thanks for the information. I was a bit scared on using scrapebox blast for being sandbox.
     
  10. vampirerocks123

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    In between can you make some alignment. Its like a big paragraph. Would be good if it is properly aligned.
     
  11. d4l1t0s

    d4l1t0s Power Member

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    I will try to do it , I hate editing lol .
     
  12. takeachance

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    I think a very important aspect to take into further consideration here relates to the differences in niches and to some extent approaches.

    For some niches firing at will several thousand backlinks directly to your money site will be fine but then again for some niches (and you mentioned seasonal ones as an example) you will be hit hard in terms of serp placement.

    For any newbies reading this you have to take a judgement based upon the factors mentioned above and indeed your gut feel for the first placed sites you are trying to outrank;

    - how many links do they have?
    - when did they get them?
    - what quailty are their links?
    - how old are the domains ranking?

    The thing to remember here is that every keyword and/or niche you target will be different and there is no 'generic' approach to backlinking (as there is with onsite SEO for example) should you simply blast your money site with links regardless, without first looking at the first page (and therefore successful sites), you could well be in trouble.

    Finally, notice the 'could' in that statement - I have seen many, many anomalies and so far I have established it is impossible to guarantee what will happen with any given link building campaign so do not be afraid to try things differently to what others preach - as I said, each target is very different - experiement, monitor, record, analyse, and repeat.
     
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  13. LordSwarovski

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    Nothing new, but good to see other people are headed in good direction
     
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    How many links it is safe to blast using scrapebox per day? How fast google react and sanbox you?
     
  15. THUNDERELVI

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    First of all, this thread is very informational for newbies, I see nothing new here, but still contributing is very good:)

    I need to ask you a question, I know the answer, but still I'm not sure about it, although the answer is logical and can't be the other one - more below:

    Let's assume that for a keyword, for e.x weight loss, if the #1 site ranking for this kw, is the main domain name(for e.x weightloss.com) we will analyze all the backlinks pointing to EVERY PAGE of the site or just the home page?

    The same question goes for e.x if a page of a site(weightloss.com/lose-weight) ranks #1 for a kw lose weight for e.x when analyzing backlinks of it, should we analyze the backlinks pointing to the site or just the backlinks pointing to the PAGE which is ranking?

    I think it's the 2nd one, but still 2 minds are better than 1, what do you think?

    I'm asking this because I found a keyword where a page of an authority site is ranking #1 but the page only has 312 backlinks, while the site has over 1million backlinks:eek:
    So according to you, if I make more than 1312 backlinks to my site(1000+) that means I can outrank my competitor?
     
  16. darshan1994

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    PR is important as well, no matter what people say but it does not mean that if your site has no PR you cannot outrank a High PR site. This is false :)
    Blackhatworld has PR N/A. And it does get alot of traffic from google.
    Searches like "spam detected" puts BHW out there.
     
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    Good question!
     
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    I bought SB but not used it many times because of the nofollow atribute on the scraped links. I read every time about blasts using SB and I always wanted to ask you guys if you blast nofollow backlinks.

    The article is well written and easy to assimilate.
     
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    You tend to base this type of analysis upon the particular PAGE you are trying to outrank. Therefore in my view, the answer is as you suspected (No.2). TLD authority is certainly a basis for discussion when discussing outranking a sub page but consider the Amazon example, it is very easy to outrank it should the sub page not carry many links but the TLD has many millions.....
     
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  20. takeachance

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    Blasting links to NF pages can be useful in many ways not least indexing and getting your link count up. Don't forget that it will not bring any PR juice in but will help to build an anchor text foundation.

    I break down my large NF SB lists into domain PR - the lesser PR domains are used for indexing and link counts and the high domain PR (I am not concerned with PAGE PR here) can be used to provide a much more respectable link even if it is NF - it works well for me...
     
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