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Google rank my site vs another......

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by creztor, May 6, 2008.

  1. creztor

    creztor Power Member

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    Ok, let's see how this goes. I used the bad ass affil dominator method to launch my .org site about an affil program. It was launched on the 18th of April. I did everything shown in the bad ass program. Blog, hubpages, rss feeds etc, everything. My content was most likely re-written but not written from scratch, I honestly can not remember now. I see someone launched a similar .net site on the 19th of April for the same affil program and they have managed to get 3rd position on google out of 8,270 results. Their site has just meta keywords and description and they use an iframe to link to the main .com affil site. My .org is nowhere to be seen in google search, but my squid and hubpages, along with lycos etc are all ranked within the top 20 or around that, they at least show up when searching. links: for the .net site shows 7 links and my .org site 85. I am at a complete loss as to how they have managed to get such a high position, with very few links, nothing more than meta keywords and description with iframe on their site and they started almost the same time as me. I am not expecting that my site MUST be in the top 10 on google, but I can't see how their site would be out performing mine. What am I missing? The obvious and this is what I found. I did not have TOS or Privacy text/links on my site, would this be the cause? So I added these and links to the files. I stupidly did not have meta keywords or description, so I added them (I know, don't go there). These were the only two things I could think of, other than some kind of google slap or something for duplicate content? Would the bad ass method be hurting me in someway? I checked Drew's site and his butterflyreports site ranks very well so I don't think this would be the reason. I am guessing it must be the meta keywords and description, but I am at a loss how the .net site is doing so well with nothing more than a few links, an iframe and meta keywords and description against 8,000 other sites.

    On a similar note, I have a .info site that I launched 24th of April and it ranks number 3 in google out of 249,000 results. I only used half of the bad ass method (main site, blog, squid, hub and submit 2 rss feeds) but it ranks very high. This site does have the TOS, privacy and meta keywords/description. I am amazed that the one I only half arsed promoted ranks high and the .org site which I spent a lot of time on is doing so poorly (besides my meta stuff up, seriously I know:) )Anyone have any insight?
     
  2. ghands

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    I've encountered that myself. Are you sure there aren't a lot of supplemental / similar results on Google for this site ? Or are they using cloaking ? I discovered one three page site that was wipping me and it turned out to be using cloaking and a lot of filler content - 84 pages to be precise. So when people say that Google doesn't like that kind of stuff they are kind of right, but there are always some people who get away with it...
     
  3. DeskCoder

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    How does the onpage SEO compare? With so little backlinks, Google may just be taking that into account.
     
  4. creztor

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    Thx for the replies. I dont know how they are doing it. The .com main site for the affil program isnt anywhere near the top when searching (shows up at 129 position or something when searching), and the .net site just uses an iframe to link to this site yet it is near the top. They are obviously doing something. DeskCoder, not sure about onpage SEO, since the .com main site ranks so poorly, but the .net which uses the iframe ranks so well, I am confused :) Thanks for the replies guys.
     
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    Care to PM me the sites so I can take a closer look?

    If not, not big deal, I am very secretive myself.